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KileAnderson
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 Posted - 02/23/2003 : 11:58:52
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I recently stumbled across this outrageous story. I wasn't there personaly so I can't say for a fact that it didn't happen but it strains belief. Can others who were in the Homestead/South Dade area after Andrew read and comment please. I just thought this would be an interesting topic.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/hurricane.html
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olderthendirt
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 12:18:11
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| Kile, I have seen that story before, while I placed with my alien abduction stories in that round file cabinet there might just be a spark of truth behind the story. I have talked to other adjusters who had some of the same questions that I did. West of Homestead, Florida City is a rural farming area. While driving throught there I was lost (a common complaint after Andrew) and saw a trailer part sign ahead. I pulled in to be faced with a guard boths barb wire and sand bags. The booth was maned by dessert storm troops (the ones that were give bullets unlike the national guard). A soldier came out and said "get out of here" He had his weapon in hand although he didn't raise it. When I tried to ask directions I was told to leave. The trailer park, or what was left that I could see appeared to be older units, mostly destroyed. If there was a coverup, it would involve illegal farm workers, some believe that thousands of them died in tese trailer parks (work camps?). I must admit that the armed soldiers seemed a bit of an over kill for what appeared to be a low income trailer park. |
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KileAnderson
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 12:23:09
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| I was in the National Guard, (in basic training at Ft. Benning during Andrew.) If I or any of the men in my company had ever been ordered to incinerate thousands of bodies when the official death toll had been reported in the double digits I know we all would have been telling our stories to the press. Why didn't CNN or 20/20 or 60 minutes pick this story up. I think it is because it didn't happen. While I think it is highly possible that a few undocumented workers slipped through the counts unnoticed, I don't think thousands died and the government covered it up. What did they do, hunt down and kill all the families and friends of these people too? |
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olderthendirt
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 12:33:18
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| Kile the solders I saw were not National Guard. Nor were they even polite. I have no proof that anything was wrong, just a feeling that something was happening that didn't make any sense. Why waste armed soldiers to watch the ruins of a low end trailer park? Maybe they were unhappy becuase they were stuck watching something with little or no value, when others were doing things that were more constructive. |
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Ghostbuster
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 14:01:53
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It's true...One of my losses was with a nurse that worked in the closest hospital still functioning. She said she personally had processed in 1800 different DNA identified body parts at that time. Most all of which came from the farm workers camps. The coverup was a collusion between the media, the tourist businessmen, and the various governments. (That is to say, the body parts were from 1800 different people.)
Please folks, do not ever trust any goverment except to know that they consider you and me expendable. |
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KileAnderson
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 14:11:20
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| OK, what was her name and what was the name of the hospital? Were Scully and Moulder around? |
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Newt
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 16:03:52
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Not that many migrant workers in or around homestead that I knew of. I owned a home in Leisure City, by the little lake. I also had a bussiness on Krome Ave in Homestead. I sold Electronics equipment and certified ship and aircraft radio and radar equipment. Florida City was not that big on farming, most of it was between Leisure city and Florida City to the East of US 1. Some farming was out Krome Ave and North to the Red Lands Area, mostly avacados and fruit orchards. Just before Andrew there was a building explosion around Fla.City. I could believe some but not all the media coverup stories. What would be the motive to cover something up that was going to bring in more money according to the casualties? If anything I think they would have lied about the body count.
An unidentified body is a body. The guard was put there to prevent looting and that was a big problem. I left the area in 71, and had friends there that kept me posted on the building that was going on and after ten years I wouldn't have known the place. |
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Ghostbuster
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 16:56:26
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Newt, it was for the sake of tourism. Kile, after 10 years, how should I remember that when I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning? Besides, the last time Zort and Glaktu abucted me again to their UFO, they used a new kind of anal probe so my memory is kinda fuzzy. (Deeper! Deeper! Go deeper, said Zort.)
Oh yeah, and what happened to the looters bodies the National Guard boys would collect each morning in their Humvees? |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2003 : 16:59:16
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| Ghost, what do you think the Red Cross was feeding to the homeless people? |
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Janice Toll
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 19:19:30
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While working in Miami after "Andrew", we repeatedly heard that there was a large number of casualties that had not been reported. According to hearsay, most of the victims were illegal migrant farm workers living in "shelters" that were little more than cardboard boxes.
About two years ago, I met a guard working security at my son's place of employment in Ft. Lauderdale. He confirmed the stories, told me that he had personally been involved in the detail to remove the bodies and stated that the number of dead was well over one thousand. I tend to believe him.
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Ghostbuster
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 19:21:31
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| Kile, they were fed Soylent Green. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2003 : 20:02:18
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| Soylent Green is people! |
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olderthendirt
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2003 : 23:02:05
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| Janice, cardboard boxes would describe the trailer park I saw, as I have ssen in the south, farmers buy up the cheapest beatup trailers for the mirgent (illegal?) workers. Certainly didn't see a sign of anything worth looting. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2003 : 23:14:38
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| OK, say there were over 1000 dead. What would be the point of covering it up and how would they cover it up? The government can't keep anything secret. There are enough anti-government people in this country that would dig it all up and we would be watching it on CNN or 60 minutes. |
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Newt
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2003 : 08:02:49
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Goulds,Naranji,Leisure City, Homestead and Fla.City were not a tourist area. There were no facilities, and the only thing that they got was traffic on US 1. The only farm shacks I saw was the concrete block shacks, where a family of six or eight had a 12x12. If I remember right they were 24ft wide and about 100' long. I don't doubt there were illegals living there and maybe they got the trailers after I was there. Undocumented aliens I can believe, farm workers, I doubt.
I don't know the motive behind not having an accurate body count unless it was to cover up the number of illegals that escaped the net. They could have listed them as unidentified and got more grant money, so a coverup makes no sense. Maybe it was to save burial plots so they incenerated them, that makes sense, because of the lack of land.
Does anyone know the number of fatalities in that storm, that were reported?
The looters would have been after money, most farm workers carried a roll that would choke a horse. They had a wife and four or five kids working in the fields and Daddy was the bank. Only thing was, this was off season, not many farm workers are used during that time of year. I think this was planting season.
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RJ
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Posted - 02/24/2003 : 10:12:55
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| Those of us that were working the storm witnessed a lot of strange things. We listened to story after store from insured's employed in just about every profession. Personally from what I heard and saw the stories have a lot of merit. However, the military kept everyone including the news media & non essential personal away from the hard hit areas for several weeks. Plenty of time in which to remove the evidence. For those of you that do not believe the stories of the death count I have a good question for you. Why were there so many billboards along US 1 requesting anyone to come forward for the purpose of identifying the dead? |
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