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KileAnderson
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 Posted - 02/28/2003 : 22:55:35
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| I think the thing that heavily religious people miss is you can sit on your large posterior and pray all day and nothing will ever happen. It is through your own actions and hard work that good things are accomplished. Believers may seek guidance through prayer, but prayer or not, it is those who actively seek success that find it, not those who simply wish for it. |
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Gale
USA
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Posted - 02/28/2003 : 23:28:46
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Kile’s good point is often missed. Prayer is not to replace hard work towards a worthwhile goal. Sometimes we forget to put any feet on our prayers.
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Jportillo
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2003 : 09:05:59
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I think most of you have taken what I said out of context. I believe the original question was intended to see what each individual did or did not do to "Break Barriers" If not then I misread the questions. Get over it, "let the birdy Go" The question was not if you believe or don't believe. To each his own. I do apoligize for what I misspoke about the "kick Backs" it was never intented to sound the way it did. I do not regret what I wrote about my belief and how I broke the barriers. To all those who mis-read please re-read with an open mind. I never say to replace hardwork with religion. I believe the two things go hand and hand. You must have faith in what you are doing if not then you will doubt yourself every step of the way. Faith in your capabilities and co-workers etc. Call it what you want, or deny it if you will but everybody believes in something to motivate them. Whether its God, Budda, Ala or the easter Bunny.Be adults and not children and respect each others feelings and opinions. May GOD Bless Everyone who responded and who reads this and there families, may they prosper and be safe as they travel this great country of ours helping people put their lives back together with love and compasion AMEN.
Jesus Says
He who will not be ashamed of me before man
Then I will not be ashamed of him before my father
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Larry N. Cole
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2003 : 09:49:37
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Fivedaily said it best.
Best of luck J. while out of country. |
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Michael Stueart
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2003 : 00:20:34
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It is appropriate for anyone anywhere to talk about his beliefs. If these beliefs were discussed , brought out in the light of day, and practiced in our daily and yes business lives, the world as a whole, I believe< would be a better place. I find some of your comments very offensive. Because someone proffesses his faith in a higher being it is no cause for ridicule and embarrassment. I for one bend my knees everyday and thank my Lord for what he has provided for me. I believe he has opened every door that I have been through. I'm not preaching just stating how some of us, probably alot of , us feel about religion. I applaude anyone who proffesses publicly about his or her convictions. Perhaps prayer in school wasn't a bad idea afterall??????
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william s cook
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Posted - 03/06/2003 : 16:14:42
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I agree with Michael Steuart
The teaching of the ways of Buddah can keep our school children on track for a better understanding of life.
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tomgriffin56
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2003 : 16:47:26
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I hate to jump in here because I know I'm going to get my butt bit.
I do not believe that it is not always alright for a man to discuss his religious beliefs " anywhere, anytime". I believe that any person also has the right not to hear your beliefs if they do not wish to. I especially believe that there may be an impropriety in discussing them at the home of an insured who has to let you in because of their claim, and may sit through the recital of your beliefs in order to get through the claim process.
Just my views on the airing of one's views, not a statement about a persons right to believe differently than me. (Also off post and I apologize) |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 17:15:14
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Tom, don't be shy, there hasn't been any bad bites in this thread.
I tend to think / believe as you have stated, however I am more tolerant and certainly more understanding of the issue; than I was just a few weeks ago.
As your sentence goes, regarding the impropriety of professing religion in an insured's home, I tend to agree; but I feel you have stated the extreme application that may be expressed as an example of 'how much' might be said. I'm sure Don will quickly tell us all, that whenever he engages in religious discussion in an insured's home, he is not likely the one to initiate it; and at the extreme if he was 'first' it would only be a suttle mention to guage the reaction.
That 'process' is not my 'cup of tea', but as I said, I certainly understand the concept of the discussion better now.
As I've stated before, I wouldn't get involved in a religious discussion with an insured, or really with any one else in public life. It is easy for me to avoid it, I just don't know what to say, or how to say it; in that regard. But, I can be a great listener. |
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Dadx9
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 22:58:30
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Clayton,
Thanks for the invite. Why is it that anyone who believes anything religious is always typed as an evangelist looking to put another notch is his / her spiritual gun? |
Don
"To be held in the heart of a friend is to be a king."
Bruce Cockburn |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 23:09:15
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Don, it's because so many of us unrepentent souls have had very bad and annoying experiences with self righteous religious freaks who preach one thing and do another. It is hypocrits like the ones I just described that cause those of us who don't need religion to shun those who preach it.
To me, religion or the lack there of, is a very personal thing and I won't tell you about mine if you promise to keep yours to yourself too. I find that is the best way for all of us to treat it. |
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Dadx9
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2003 : 23:18:40
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| I hope I don't find myself in that group. I believe that you can only speak into someone's life (all subjects apply) with as much authority as they give you. What do you think? |
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Dadx9
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 23:18:42
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| I hope I don't find myself in that group. I believe that you can only speak into someone's life (all subjects apply) with as much authority as they give you. What do you think? |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 23:29:07
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While I addressed my comments to you, Don, they were not about you. I was simply trying to answer a question that you posed.
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Dadx9
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2003 : 08:07:37
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| Understand. Thanks. |
Don
"To be held in the heart of a friend is to be a king."
Bruce Cockburn |
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mshort68
USA
138 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2003 : 10:38:48
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| How did we get so far off the topic of the original post? If you want to discuss religion either go to church or post a new topic. |
The grass is always greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed! |
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