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Ol' Ghost
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05/18/2009 8:50 AM
Tom, now has our new pal given himself enough rope to justify deleting these past two pages of spewage?

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05/18/2009 9:21 AM
Wait, wait, Tom, Mr. Kold King is a valuable resource. Read what he says and watch his You Tube video, and learn. He is real. Every adjuster needs to learn to deal with these guys. As we move further into this depression guys of this ilk are going to come out of the woodwork and I think they serve a need. Mr. Kool King may be obnoxious, but any adjuster with 35+ years experience has run across hundreds of similar people and the lesson is that you just need to take the high ground, pay close attention to details and do the job you were hired to do.

I have to go to work, its a weekday and I have appointments, so I am going to shut up.

Let me leave this with my opinion, spray on fiberglass roofing is not mainstream and opening a car wash, fitness center and coffee shop in Idalou, TX doesn't seem like the best use of capital. Should anyone have any knowledge, a claim involving one of these roofs, let me know. If you see one of the Kold King trailers or a roofer in your area advertises this system let me know.
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05/18/2009 9:45 AM
Chopped glass not mainstream? Huh? What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China? Corvettes aren't as mainstream as Corollas, therefore they're lesser...I get it now. ;-)
 
Chucky, I can see I've annoyed you. I needed to. I needed to irritate a couple of you so you'd show your true colors. It was easier than I thought it would be, I have to admit. My purpose in pulling your puppet strings was to get someone to show my point, which is that some adjusters are arrogant know-it-alls who have been stuck in a rut for decades and are woefully behind the times. If you don't know what Monoform/Monolithic is, you are indeed way out of step.
 
You have taken the time to read every page of my website (multiple times as indicated by my Page Couter software lol...btw, how many times do you think you should watch my karate YouTube video until you get enough? lol), so why not extend that curiosity to educating yourself about chopped glass roofing. The reason it is so popular in California (Title 24 state) and advancing rapidly, is because it's environmentally freiendly, and because no other retrofit system can last as long or recover as many different roof types. You really should get up to speed about it, it's already in your area. In fact, if I didn't think your asking other for info about these roofs in their area was a silly not-so-veiled threat, I might ask where yuor area is and point you to some of them.
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05/18/2009 10:35 AM
I missed a few days of reviewing CADO and suddenly this particular thread has gotten nasty and personal. If the thrashing and the personal levels do not cease, this thread will be locked. Kold King, I understand your plight, but there is no need to come on here and tell us how wonderful you are. Your the answer to all the insured's nightmare. There is but one entity that makes the replacement/repair decision, and that is of the Company and vendor indepedent adjsuters represent.
 
I agree that there are some adjusters out there that are certainly lacking in knowledge. There are many adjusters out there that are very knowledgeable and can actually determine what roofs are in place and determine whether they need replacing or repairing. That being said, there is no need to bring this thread to the level it has been brought to. Any further thrasing or getting too personal will be deleted, henceforth.
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05/18/2009 10:37 AM
Dear Chuckycheesy,
 
Curiosity got the best of me and I Google you and your AR claim co. Sheesh Chuckles, I thought I was dealing with some whizbang adjuster here. lol For all the ridicule you tossed about my insignificant lil' car washes, it seems my tiniest car wash grosses more than your "35 year" claims co.  Nuttin' wrong with being small, Chuckles, but it hardly qualifies you to judge my financial wherewithall...hardly.
 
In the unlikely event that you and I ever work a claim together, I sincerely hope you'll bring more ability than you've shown me here, lest you be embarassed yet again.
 
I've made my points here and I never intended to irritate the masses in order to out a few. So, unless you can resist annoying me some more and forcing me to embarass you further, ado.
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05/18/2009 10:44 AM
Tom, fair enough. I can be as civil as I receive. That said, your statement here is just wrong: There is but one entity that makes the replacement/repair decision, and that is of the Company and vendor indepedent adjsuters represent.
 
Therein lies the rub. The carrier is legally bound to provide the coverage the insured purchased. In that, the adjuster nor the agent gets to make the final decision on what gets paid - if they decide not to pay enough, there is legal remedy within the policy to force the carrier to pay. In the end it is the decision of the 2 reps for the insured and carrier, and a Third Disinterested Party.
 
It's a little like Ford saying they get to decide if they have to repair your Powerstroke engine if it blows in < 100k miles. No, they get a chance to voluntarily repair, and then they can be forced to.
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05/18/2009 11:06 AM
 there is no need to come on here and tell us how wonderful you are.
 
One last thing Tom, I said not a word about those things until Chuck blathered on about me being an uneducated nitwit with no experinces that can match his 35 years experience.  It was only then that I saw a need to show him some of my credentials. Every time I mentioned something, i.e., chopped glass, Chuck saw a need to knock it. I mentioned some of those things so that Chuck would fail in his attempt to cast me off as some inexperienced halfwit roofer.
 
My dad has a saying about roofers, which also applies to adjusters: There are those with 35 years experience, and then there are those with 1 year of experience 35 times. If you don't keep yourself up to speed, what good does counting the years do?
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05/18/2009 11:48 AM
C'mon, Tom! Pull the plug on this diatribe. This yokel makes Poe Roofing from McAllen, Tx sound like a piker and Poe didn't raise half the ire Mr Allen is doing.

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05/18/2009 1:34 PM
Ire? Is that the standard for this forum, if your ire is raised the ire'er should go? I realize the First Amendment doesn't exist on internet forums that require registration, but the concept has worked pretty well for a couple hundred years. You might check into it, Ghost.
 
Yours and Chuck's reactions are telling. I have responded in kind, going no further than the post I've responded to, but you want me silenced because I'm asking questions you really don't know how to respond to. Chuck though he was being cute by name-callng and ridicule, and when y'all get that is response, it's different...somehow.
 
Ban me, I really don't care one way or the other. I hoped to prove that a percentage of adjusters are arrogant bullies who will not tolerate insubordination, and you have helped me do that. In spades! Though you'll never hear it uttered here, many of your adjuster brethren are wishing you'd just shut up because you're perpetuating the adjuster stereotype. It's unfair to them that 2 or 3 outspoken loose cannons make it appear as though a higher percentage of your profession are unprofessional. The truth is that the vast majority of adjusters are honest and know their job, but like with roofers, a handful give the rest a bad rep.
 
I'll say it one more time because evidently you didn't get it the first two times. You 2 keep this thread alive when you can't resist making one last jab, disguised as a please to the moderators to end it. Just stop talking and it will end on it's own. Sheesh. 
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05/18/2009 11:26 PM
Do some adjusters take kickbacks (I include extensive home renovations)? Yes.
have I heard of a claims manager offering a reward to the staffy who denied the most claims each month? Yes.
Have I had roofers try to bribe me.  Yes.
Have I heard of a young staffy denying a shake roof because he didn't want to pay two in the same day?  Yes
Have I heard of an independent adjuster scoping 28 losses by 1pm (one picture form the road and roofers to give him an estimate)?  Yes.
Have I heard many stories on both sides in 38 years, yes and many of them are true.
I expect to hear and experience any more stores in the next 38 years.
 
As to adjuster and roofer incompendence, don't get me started.
 
 
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05/19/2009 12:14 AM
I wish to retract the assumption that this guy was one of us saying "pull my finger".  As the posts have gone on--and if you track back--it's pretty evident he suffers from dillusions of grandeur not currently medicated.  I ain't no psychologist, but some have implied that I'm a little psycho.  Maybe it does take one to know one.  You go Korn King!!  Let's hear more about that roofing system and it's hail resistancy in California!!  Shoot, let's hear about the floodproof basements in Arizona while we're at it.
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05/19/2009 12:14 AM
Tom, Mr. Kold King does not offend me. I was unaware of his ability to use bath tub building methods, materials and tools to re roof. Fortunately I don't have any investment, my money or anybody else's, in a combo fitness center, car wash and coffee shop in Idalou, TX, but I don't fault him for doing it I do think it is foolish and a waste of time and effort. Nor do I sell roofing equipment and then teach classes encouraging the purchaser to purchase a similar combo.

I admire people who have the, what ever it takes, to do succeed at Karate. My son is a Black Belt.

Do I think there are crooks, yes, I know there are crooks in every walk of life. The pastor at my church made a living that my poor widowed mother contributed to. Do they approach me, no, most everybody knows that I will call the law instantly. Will I cheat an insured, no, not intentionally.

It is me that he calls "Chuckycheesy" some of my best friends call me "Chuckles" Here is one he missed "Chuck Pete". Do I "blather" sometimes. Pretty tame I would say.

With that said, I am excited, just jumping up and down, to see three men do the work of ten and look at this super re roofing system.
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05/19/2009 8:25 AM
Tom, Mr. Kold King does not offend me. I was unaware of his ability to use bath tub building methods, materials and tools to re roof.
 
Chuck continues to toss stinkbombs among the crowd, so don't wonder why the flames continue. I could use your same logic about EPDM roofs, saying they're tired building methods used to reroof. Doesn't mean it makes any sense. Are you this irritating in person?
 
Fortunately I don't have any investment, my money or anybody else's, in a combo fitness center, car wash and coffee shop in Idalou, TX, but I don't fault him for doing it I do think it is foolish and a waste of time and effort.
 
You don't find fault but you think it's a foolish waste of time? Do you not see a disconnect there? lol You're obsessing about me, it almost seems as though you're stalking me. I gave you a link to my bio page, and my Net Tracker shows you've veiwed each and every page, numerous times, spending an embarassing amount of time on some.

I admire people who have the, what ever it takes, to do succeed at Karate. My son is a Black Belt.

Whatever it takes? Your son is a Black Belt and still you can't resist a jab at Black Belts? "What it takes" is the sole reason I mentioned my Black Belts are in Ni Gojuryu, not some Black Belt mill that turns out black belts to anyone who can afford to buy one...of which there are many. 

Will I cheat an insured, no, not intentionally.

You'll cheat him unintentionally? lol Does it make a difference to the insured?

With that said, I am excited, just jumping up and down, to see three men do the work of ten and look at this super re roofing system.
 
Your reading comprehension needs work. A Kold King rig can allow 3 men do the work of 30. That is backed up in the video on our website, where we've marked off 1 SQR on the roof and a couunter shows how long it takes to cover 100 sq. ft. On a smooth surfaced roof our rig can do over 1 SQR per minute, with 3 men. We can easily do 40,000 sq. ft. in 1 day if the roof is large enough. You do the math - a conventional crew is 4-5 men, and they're lucky if they can hot mop down 2,000 sq. ft. in a day.
 
My dad invented the KK rig in the 70's after he landed a 34 acre Army Ordinance Depot roof (17 building, 90,000 sq. ft. each). He was running 125 employees on that project and it took him over a year - just as he was finished tearing off and hot mopping a base and 3 plies on the last building, baseball sized hail wiped out the entire project and he got to start all over. He then invented the Kold King rig as a faster means of roofing because he didn't want to spend another 1.2 years on the project.  That's all the KK rig does, it pumps asphalt a LOT faster than you can mop asphalt.
 
None of this sales pitch would be necessary if you could resist knocking us and come to grips with your inferiority complex.
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05/19/2009 8:52 AM
 Let's hear more about that roofing system and it's hail resistancy in California!! 
Huh? Who said anything about that? Did you and Chuck have the same Reading teacher? ;-)
 
Chopped glass/emulsion roofing stands up to hail about the same as mod bit. It's not designed to be hail proof - we don't want it to be hailproof. YOU don't want it to be hailproof (claimproof). Where things change is that, because of the system's light weight and the fact that it cannot blister, it is often reinstalled 2-3 times after the town gets large hail again...once you've installed the 2nd layer of chopped glass/emulsion, it is extremely hail resistant and required close to tennis ball size hail to do significant damage.
 
And before Chuck jumps in with some b izarre comment about roofing 2-3 times, let me point out that in this part of the world some towns can get baseball size hail 3 times in 15 years or less. Klondike Texas saw some houses get reroofed 3 times in one summer because the hail kept coming throuigh about 3-4 weeks apart.
 
I'm not trying to sell the system but I will defend it when it's attacked by people who don't know anything about it. It's not some hocus pocus system that nobody knows about. The largest manufacturer of roofing asphalt in the US is Henry Company. I'm sure you've heard of them; their products are sold in Home Depot, Lowes, and ABC Supply, etc. My family has an arrangement with Henry Company whereby they manufacture and market Kold King Emulsion. And yeah we get a royalty on every gallon of Kold King Emulsion they sell, but since it isn't very likely that any of you will be buying any, I don't think I'm trying to sell anything here. :-)
 
I came to this forum to whack a few marginal adjusters to amuse myself...kinda like whack-A-Mole, only with adjusters. lol I didn't intend to get into this discussion about chopped glass roof systems, but hey, I didn't take it here. What I found here is just what I've found in the real world - that most are professionals just quietly going about their business, with a few knuckleheads giving the rest a bad rep.
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05/19/2009 10:54 AM
The chopped glass system uses the same process used by manufacturers to build fiberglass boats, tubs, motorhomes, etc. Fiberglass roving (fiberglass rope) is fed into an air-driven chopping motor that precisely chops the glass into millions of 1/2" strands. The Chop King chopping gun then blows those glass strands into a fan pattern using 4 air jets, where it is precisely blended, mid air, with 2 converging fan patterns of clay asphalt emulsion. Essentially, the Kold King rig is applying a built-up roof complete with asphalt and felt (glass fiber reinforcement), except that the finish product is much more versatile and durable that built-up roofing. It is extremely fast, too, at up to 400 SQRS in a day with 3 men when using a Kold King rig. This is an EXTREMELY important advantage to your customer (the building owner or manager) in that more of his roofing dollars stays on his roof.
 

Canopy: An overhang, usually over entrances or driveways.

Cant: (1) Short for Cant Strip; (2) The act of installing foam at a right angle adjunct.

Cant Strip: A triangular-shaped strip of material used to ease the transition from a horizontal plane to a vertical plane. Cant strips can be made of wood, wood fiber, perlite, or other materials.

Cap Flashing: A material used to cover the top edge of base flashings or other flashings. (See also Coping.)

Cap Sheet: A granule-surfaced membrane often used as the top ply of BUR or modified roof systems.

Capacitance Meter: A device for locating moisture within a roof system by measuring the ratio of the change to the potential difference between two conducting elements that are separated by a non-conductor.

Catalyst: A substance that effects a chemical reaction and/or the rate at which a chemical reaction takes place. In roofing, catalysts are used in SPF roofing.

Cathodic: metals low in the Galvanic Series.

Caulk: A material with no elastomeric properties used for sealing joints.

Caulking: The act of sealing a joint or of material.

Cavitation: The vaporization of a liquid under the suction force of a pump which can create voids within the pump supply line. Cavitation will result in off-ratio foam in Sprayed Polyurethane Foam applications.

CCF: 100 cubic feet.

C-Channel: A structural framing member that, when viewed cross-sectionally, has the shape of a "C".

Cellulose: A complex carbohydrate, (C6H10O5)n, that is composed of glucose units, forms the main constituent of the cell wall in most plants, and is used in the manufacturing of organic roofing materials.

CERL: Construction Engineering Research Laboratory

CG&E: See Chopped Glass and Emulsion.

Chalk: A powdery residue on the surface of a material.

Chalk Line: (1) A string on a reel in a container that can hold chalk; (2) A line made on by pulling taut a string coated with chalk and snapping it.

Channel Flashing: Flashing with a built-in channel for runoff; used where roof planes intersect other vertical planes.

Chemical Resistance: A materials ability to retain its properties when it comes into contact with certain chemicals.

Chlorinated Polyethylene1 (CPE): CPE is a flexible material with high tear strength, good chemical resistance and patency towards UV radiation. As a result of the high chlorine content (typically 30%) it is inherently difficult to ignite, but releases hydrogen chloride during combustion. It suffers from an extremely high permeability to gas. Resistance to most inorganic chemicals is generally good, while resistance to hydrocarbons increases with increasing chorine content. The material is used mainly as an impact modifier for PVC and, to a lesser extent, LDPE and HDPE film.

Chlorosulfonated Polyethylene (NRCA Definition): A synthetic, rubber-like thermoset material, based on high molecular weight polyethylene with suphonyl chloride, usually formulated to produce a self-vulcanizing membrane. Chlorosulfonated Polyethylene or CSPE. Best know as Hypalon™, it was developed in 1951 by DuPont.

Chopped Glass and Emulsion (CG&E): A roof coating that consists of asphalt or clay emulsion and glass fiber reinforcement. The glass fiber comes in rope form and is mechanically chopped into small pieces and then mixed with the emulsion at the end of the spray gun so that the mixture is complete by the time the surfacing hits the top of the roof. Standard mixture is 9 gallons of emulsion and 3 pounds of glass fiber for every 100 square feet (36.5 Liters of emulsion and 1.5 kg of chopped glass for every 10 square meters). The CG&E coating is then usually surfaced with a fibered aluminum roof coating at rate of 1.5 gallons per 100 square feet (6 Liters per 10 square meters).

Cladding: A material used to cover the exterior wall of a building.

Cleat: A continuous metal strip used to secure two or more metal roof components together. Commonly used along with coping or gravel stop on tall buildings.

Clerestory (Clearstory): A room that extends above an abutting roof section of a building.

Clip: A small cleat. See Cleat.

Clipped Gable: A gable cut back at the ridge in a small hip configuration.

Closed-Cut Valley: A method of valley application in which shingles from one side of the valley extend across the valley while shingles from the other side are installed over the top of those and then trimmed back approximately 2 inches from the valley centerline.

Closure Strip: A material used to close openings created by joining metal panels or sheets and flashings.

Coal Tar Bitumen: A proprietary trade name for Type III coal tar used in dead-level or low-slope built-up roofs. It is not for use in roofs exceeding ¼" in 12" (2%) slope.

Coal Tar Pitch: A type of coal tar used in dead-level or low-slope built-up roofs. It is not for use in roofs exceeding ¼" in 12" (2%) slope.

Coal Tar Felt: A roofing membrane saturated with refined coal tar.

Coal Tar Roof Cement: A trowelable mixture of processed coal tar base, solvents, mineral fillers and/or fibers.

Coarse Orange Peel Surface Texture: A surface showing a texture where nodules and valleys are approximately the same size and shape. This surface is generally acceptable for installing a protective coating.

Coated Base Sheet: An asphalt-saturated base sheet membrane later coated with harder, more viscous asphalt, thereby increasing its impermeability to moisture.

Coated Felt: An asphalt-saturated ply sheet that has also been coated on both sides with harder, more viscous asphalt.

Coating: A layer of material that is spray, roller, or brush applied over a surface for protection or sometimes decoration.

Cohesion: Mutual attraction by which the elements or particles of a body or substance are held together.

Coil Coating: The application of a finish to a coil of metal or other material.

Cold Forming: The process of shaping metal into desired configurations at ambient room temperature.

Cold Process Built-Up Roof: A roof consisting of multiple plies of roof felts laminated together with adhesives that usually come right out of a can or barrel and require no heating.

Collector Head: A component used to direct water from a through-wall scupper to a downspout. Also known as a Conductor Head.

Column: A vertical structural member placed on a footing or foundation used to support horizontal above-ground building components.

Combing Ridge: A term used to describe an installation of finishing slate at the ridge of a roof whereby the slates on one side project beyond to the apex of the ridge.

Combustible: Capable of igniting and burning.

Composition Shingle: A type of shingle used in steep-slope roofing and generally comprised of weathering-grade asphalt, a fiber glass reinforcing mat, an adhesive strip, and mineral granules.

Compounded Thermoplastics1 (NRCA Definition): A category of roofing membranes made by blending thermoplastic resins with plasticizers, various modifiers, stabilizers, flame retardants, UV absorbers, fungicides, and other proprietary substances, alloyed with proprietary organic polymers. Some of the membranes listed in this generic category are CPA, EIP, NBP, and TPA.

Concealed-Nail Method: A method of installing asphalt roll roofing material in which all nails or fasteners are driven into the underlying roofing and covered by an overlapping course.

Condensate: The liquid resulting from condensation.

Condensation: The conversion of water vapor to liquid state when warm air comes in contact with a cold surface. (See also Dew Point.)

Conduction: The transmission or conveying of something through a medium or passage, especially the transmission of electric charge or heat through a conducting medium without perceptible motion of the medium itself.

Conductor Head: A component used to direct water from a through-wall scupper to a downspout. Also known as a Collector Head.

Construction Joint: A constructed joint where two successive installments of concrete come together.

Contact Cements: Adhesives used to adhere or bond roofing components.

Coping: the piece of material used to cover the top of a wall and protect it from the elements. It can be constructed from metal, masonry, or stone.

Copper: A reddish-brown element that conducts heat and electricity very well. It is also used as a primary roof material as well as a flashing component. Copper turns a greenish color after being exposed to the weather for a length of time and appears in the middle of the Galvanic Series.

Cornice: A horizontal projecting part that crowns the wall of a building.

Counter Batten: Wood strips installed vertically on sloped roofs over which horizontal battens are secured.

Counterflashing: Formed metal sheeting secured to walls, curbs, or other surfaces, for use in protecting the top edge of base flashings from exposure to weather.

Course: (1) The term used for each row of roofing material that forms the roofing or flashing system; (2) One of multiple layers materials applied to a surface. For example, a three-course flashing consists of a layer of mesh or other reinforcing material sandwiched between two layers roofing cement.

Cove: In roofing, a heavy bead of sealant material installed at the point where vertical and horizontal planes meet. It is used to eliminate the 90° angle. See also Fillet.

Cover Plate: A metal strip sometimes installed over the joint between formed metal pieces.

Coverage: The surface area covered by a material.

CPA: Copolymer Alloy.

CPE: Chlorinated Polyethylene.

Crack: A separation or fracture occurring in a material. See also Split.

Cream Time: Time in seconds at a given temperature when the A and B (isocyanate and resin) components of SPF will begin to expand after being mixed.

Creep: Movement of roof membrane causing the roof system to be deformed

Cricket: A roof component used to divert water away from curbs, platforms, chimneys, walls, or other roof penetrations and projections. See also Saddle.

Cross Ventilation: The effect of air moving through a roof cavity between vents.

CRREL: Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory

Crow's Nest: See Cupola.

CSI: Construction Specifications Institute

CSM: ASTM designation for Chlorosulfonated polyethylene. (See CSPE.)

CSPE: Chlorosulfonated polyethylene.

Cupola: A relatively small roofed structure set on the ridge of a main roof area. Also known as a Crow’s Nest.

Curb: (1) A raised member used to support skylights, HVAC units, exhaust fans, hatches or other pieces of mechanical equipment above the level of the roof surface, should be a minimum of eight inches (8") in height; (2) A raised roof perimeter that is relatively low in height.

Cure: A process by which a material is forms permanent molecular linkages by exposure to chemicals, heat, pressure, and/or weathering.

Cure Time: The time necessary to effect curing.

Curing Agent: A material additive that alters chemical activity between the components resulting in a change in the rate of cure.

Curing Compound: A liquid that is applied to newly installed concrete which slows water loss while curing.

Cutback: Bitumen thinned by solvents that is used in cold-process roofing adhesives, roof cements, and roof coatings.

Cut-off: A detail designed to seal and prevent lateral water movement in an insulation system, and used to separate different sections of a roofing system.

Cutout: The open area between shingle tabs. Also known as a "throat".
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05/19/2009 10:55 AM
Kold King, I appreciate your input, knowledge and great arguments !
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05/19/2009 12:46 PM
Tom,
 
Thanks for those definitions. They're helpful. One of the engineers at the old Flintkote invented the chopped glass system about 45-50 years ago. When we teach the Powerpoint marketing sales class to new rig purchasors, one of the most important points we make is for the contractor to make sure the prospect knows the system is NOT new. It's been around a long time. To quote one well-known roofing industry expert when asked why, if the system is so good, isn't it more widely known: Because up until recent years it was extremely hard to get into the system. Nearly impossible, due to its technical nature. But then Kold King began offering a turnkey package that included equipment, training, marketing, and access to the raw materials, it became much easier for the contractor to get into.
 
Ok, now everyone should know about the chopped glass system; maybe we can get back on topic. That Tom provided roofing definitions makes a great point. I have tried to learn insurance basic lingo so that when I work with an adjuster we don't waste a lot of time with him explaning how policies work. I think adjusters would save themselves a ton of time, and put the roofer on notice that they're not dealing with a pushover, if they would learn the roofing lingo.
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07/08/2009 12:04 AM

I just found this discusion and was curious about this "chopped fiberglass" roof system. Kold King apparantly lives in the Lubbock/South Plains area and I have worked a lot of roof claims, residential and commercial, in that area as well as the Texas Panhandle and I have never run into either this system nor him. I have worked a lot of schools in this area but we have never crossed paths and this surprises me since he seems to be a real problem solver. If Kold King is following this, I would like to know if his system is like Rapid Roof, Conklin or Urethane since the applicator gun looks a lot like a "golden" gun used in applying Urethane and Epoxy. Can this be sprayed right over a shingle roof, or over Ludowici tile? I was also wondering if he was licensed as a Public Adjuster since he is acting in that capacity.

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07/24/2009 6:21 PM
I just read this whole thread and wish I had those 10 minutes of my life back.

But, I do now know about chopped glass roofing, so I guess Kold King succeeded in that regard. But something tells me that the reason he gets such a "trance" like response from adjusters is that he is as difficult to talk to in person as he has been on this thread.
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07/25/2009 5:59 PM
I just read it too and I wished I had started at the end and worked my way backwards. I would have wasted less time. I think there would have been some time saved if a little finesse was used. I guess some people think they can go through life jamming their opinions down peoples throats......thats got to be a stressful way to live.
Stu MacDiarmid
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