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Last Post 07/30/2013 9:52 AM by  Catmandale
Not alowed to get roof ESXs from 3rd parties?
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Leland
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07/27/2013 5:50 PM

    am I understanding this correctly?

     Just a few months ago I could buy an esx of a roof diagram from Pictometry, they email it to me, and then I import it into Xactimate.

     Now I can't do that anymore?  I can only do it if I get an assignment, like from the carrier, and then I request the roof ESX from Eagleview and through Xactimate.

     So, for example, contractors can't get this anymore, and I couldn't order one for my own house?  That is what Xactimate help line told me.

     I have a suspicion the help line doesn't really know what they are talking about.

    Seems like everything is made so complicated and stupid. Technology gets harder to use, not easier. And I have money in my pocket to spend on the ESX and I would be willing to pay XM8 too to get that added to my system.

     

    Somebody tell me XM8 is wrong about their own system and tell me what I need to do.

     Its just mind boggling they can have a simple explanation with a box to click and just take people's money that they are willing to give.

    I think XM8 is trying to promote their own sketch over the photo yourself thing.

     

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    07/28/2013 8:27 PM
    There's a couple of ways to do data transfer in older versions. Did they remove the data-transfer feature all together?
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    07/29/2013 12:19 PM
    Posted By Jud G. on 7/28/2013 8:27:00 PM
    There's a couple of ways to do data transfer in older versions. Did they remove the data-transfer feature all together?


    God, I hope not. Can anyone answer Jud's question? While we have managed to not "upgrade" thus far, I would hate to have to require our IA's to dual client during deployments, since many of them have already "upgraded". Sounds like that is exactly what will have to happen if the data transfer feature has been done away with.

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    07/29/2013 2:19 PM

    Ok, I need to explain it better. Pictometry, which appears to ahve merged with Eagleview, will no longer send an esx straight to your email. You apparently need to have an account with Pictometry/Eagleview, and pay extra to Xactimate to have the Eagleview module added to your system. Just like the way you can add different valuation modules (commercial valuation, "walls in valuation" etc.) or XactContents, you can easily add the Eagleview module by going onto the free chat help line and get the customer service rep to activate it. They just can't tell you what it will cost you, you need to get that from the sales dept during regular working hours.

     Once you have the Eagleview added and an account with Eagleview then you can receive an ESX file BUT ONLY THROUGH XACTANALYSIS and only for assignments already sent to you by an insurance company or contractor connection. You can not just set up your own estimate and then get an ESX sent to you. 

    Maybe its possible to send yourself an assignment? or get a friend to send you one? But I was told you need to have an official assignment before you can receive a Eagleview/Pictometry ESX.

    But the easiest thing to do is just forget about Eagleview/Pictometry. I found some guys on Linkedin that do the same thing, and like any estimator/contractor/adjuster they just email you an ESX file to you in box just like Pictometry used to do. They are very cheap/accurate/fast and I suggested yesterday that they advertise here on Cado and now I see their ad today. www.ridgetopsketch.com

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    07/30/2013 6:51 AM
    Posted By Leland on 7/29/2013 2:19:35 PM

    Ok, I need to explain it better. Pictometry, which appears to ahve merged with Eagleview, will no longer send an esx straight to your email. You apparently need to have an account with Pictometry/Eagleview, and pay extra to Xactimate to have the Eagleview module added to your system. Just like the way you can add different valuation modules (commercial valuation, "walls in valuation" etc.) or XactContents, you can easily add the Eagleview module by going onto the free chat help line and get the customer service rep to activate it. They just can't tell you what it will cost you, you need to get that from the sales dept during regular working hours.

     Once you have the Eagleview added and an account with Eagleview then you can receive an ESX file BUT ONLY THROUGH XACTANALYSIS and only for assignments already sent to you by an insurance company or contractor connection. You can not just set up your own estimate and then get an ESX sent to you. 

    Maybe its possible to send yourself an assignment? or get a friend to send you one? But I was told you need to have an official assignment before you can receive a Eagleview/Pictometry ESX.

    But the easiest thing to do is just forget about Eagleview/Pictometry. I found some guys on Linkedin that do the same thing, and like any estimator/contractor/adjuster they just email you an ESX file to you in box just like Pictometry used to do. They are very cheap/accurate/fast and I suggested yesterday that they advertise here on Cado and now I see their ad today. www.ridgetopsketch.com

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    Hey Leland,

    I also found those folks on my satellite group on LinkedIn and seem to be legit good folks who back their product.

    My question to you, could what you are describing be a back door way to shut down public adjusters and plaintiff attorneys who utilize XM8? I mean, what with the whole XM8 ISO thing and all.

    It just kind of seems that XM8 is pushing the power play (for lack of a better term)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



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    07/30/2013 9:52 AM
    Leland and Robby,

    I think that it is a control issue with XM8. Since XactAnalysis is a revenue stream, they certainly don't like people just sharing ESX files among themselves and XM8 missing their cut of the pie.

    I have only used Ridgetop a few times, but they are on top of their game, with quick turnaround and a solid product. They also added hail reports(which I have not ordered yet.) I plan to make them a part of my toolbox for those files where it makes sense.

    Dale
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