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ChuckDeaton
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 Posted - 05/02/2003 : 10:13:49
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The rumor is that Bechtel may be hiring insurance adjusters for work in Irag.
I, for one, am interested. |
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katadj
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2003 : 10:36:13
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Can I Bring my Vest with all the weathers,teathers and accessories?
Same stuff was in the mill after the Gulf War, for Kuwait. Had some inquiries, but the long term commitment was difficult to accept. |
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ChuckDeaton
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2003 : 10:46:41
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Due to the money part of the rumor and by the way some adjusters did go to Kuwait and the rumor is that some have already gone to Iraq, I sent my resume to Bechtel.
Keep your good ear to the ground and should you hear any talk about this, please, I want to know. |
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fivedaily
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2003 : 19:38:02
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Now, I was browsing the Bechtel site looking at these "job opportunites" you have talked about and was wondering how you would fit in? As a contractor? If so, do you have your own contracting company?
If they are hiring adjusters, what would their job be?
Jennifer |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2003 : 21:18:20
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Hurricane, the bechtel project is as "humanitarian and reconstruction" program.
It doesn't matter what damaged the structures or caused the ceasing of legitmate businesses (natural or human perils), an assessment is still required to evaluate the "base level" of the infastructure.
In a very general way, only with regards to logistics and project management, picture a massive FEMA effort in a devastated area, and the following assessment of damages; which are then placed within a template for measurment in an economic sense.
It is not the dollar value (in the economic sense that you or I would be accoustomed to), forget about your traditional estimating program; but the assessment of repairability / extent of damage and feasibility for purpose built and / or use and function.
That data will likely then be used by project managers and planners, to carve an infastructure reconstruction program.
On the surface, it seems like a truly fascinating challenge.
A big big step outside "the box". |
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katadj
USA
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Posted - 05/02/2003 : 23:16:54
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five, if you peruse the site and the links , you will find that Bechtel was awared the contract to basically rebuild the city, (country).
I sent them my resume, as I have worked with them in the past. As Clayton stated it will be a monumental task to assess all of the damages and prepare a comprehensive , detailed estimate, (if Required) or at least a descriptive estimate of the required repairs to every building.
The Contract will eventually run into the 100's of millions.
The conditions surrounding the employment are very important. Time commitment, salary, (Taxable or not?)expenses, living conditions, safety issues.
I will need a LOT of serious questions answered before I entertain the gig, regardless of the money involved.
Http:www.bechtel.com |
Edited by - katadj on 05/02/2003 23:17:48 |
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fivedaily
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2003 : 08:15:03
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Katadj, as you get more info would you mind passing it on to us here? This isn't probably something I would do, but I have a high personal & professional interest in it.
Jennifer |
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jlombardo
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2003 : 09:34:09
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| Katadj---Thanks for the web site----very much appreciate the help.... |
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katadj
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2003 : 15:36:23
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Here is a link to review the Bechtel contract and the entity involved:
http://www.usaid.gov/press/releases/2003/pr030417.html
The link at the bottom can be followed for additional information or registration for services. |
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fivedaily
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2003 : 17:46:43
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I still don't have an answer to one important questions --
How does being a claims adjuster fit into Bechtel's plan? (I mean apart from any contracting or other, non-insurance adjusting experience)
Jennifer |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2003 : 18:34:36
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Hurricane, go into the link noted in Dave's post above yours; it talks at length about the piece of the project that Bechtel will work on.
Now, with an understanding of that (above), consider an important element of your "traditional" function - scoping damages.
The "infastructure" work seems limited to commercial and institutional structures. Before a Bechtel crew would or could work on any structure - to repair or rebuild it - they need to know the scope of the project and plan from that accordingly, based on that information.
That would be one function from a technical basis for those with applicable experience in that area.
Conversely, I see little need (based on what I've read to date, specific only to Bechtel's involvement) for any insurance policy wording skills specifically.
In addition, as part of the project planning, there will be operational administration needs similar to those found in a well managed claims operation on a large scale, for the function component as stated above.
This is just purely my 'read' on what I can absorb from what is available.
Does this give you an answer to your question? |
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Davey
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2003 : 19:27:39
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| After the first Gulf War ended, Peat-Marwick was given a contract by the UN to prepare a list of damage done in Kuwait by Iraq. Sadam was to be given a "bill". I interviewed for a position and before I could be "deployed", they figured out that there was no way Sadam would repay any of the claims that were paid out by the UN. End of story. A few guys went, but not many. They needed adjusters to develope the claims in Kuwait. Why would an adjuster be needed in Iraq? Seems this would be a good assignment for a competent contractor or 50. |
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katadj
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2003 : 21:40:49
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What will be needed is professional building estimators, or as we are known in Canada and England, Quantity Surveyors.
This is a specialized skill of preparing Bills of Quantities or BQ's. One must have the ability to do a complete takeoff of all the materials needed to complete a project. This can be done from plans & specs or in the case of the damaged buildings, as Clayton stated, prepare a detailed estimate of the quantites of materials and time elements for the required repairs.
This is not for a person that lacks considerable heavy commercial construction experience or estimating skills.
There will also be the need for many ancillary posittions, as i read the scope of work. Everything from a PM down.
To learn more about this trade see the attached link:
http://www.ciqs.org/conecon/article-billsofwhat.html
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2003 : 22:14:05
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| An excellent link Dave. |
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fivedaily
USA
258 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2003 : 09:38:12
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Now we are getting to the kind of info I was wanting. This is the kind of stuff not available pon the Becthel web site that only those wise from the years can share. Here is an interesting portion from Dave's link:
Middle East
Bills of Quantities are used throughout the Middle East, except in Iran and Iraq, although they have been used there on internationally sponsored projects. In countries such as Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Qatar, Oman and Saudi Arabia the BQ is generally used as part of the contract documentation. Measurements are based on the Principles of Measurement (International) or POM (I) which is an abbreviated version published by the RICS. The significant difference is that whilst quantities are provided, the bidder is responsible for checking their accuracy. Thus, the client not only has the benefit of a lump sum bid, but he also has a document for his own financial control.
I can see that this type of position with Bechtel is not for the mere adjuster, but, as Dave said, someone with heavy commercial construction experience. I don't think they want to provide OJT for the entire job, but want the individual to come with the knowledge to get it done. Maybe a support position would be more appropriate if one doesn't have all the experience required. Thanks so much for all of this wonderful info... please keep sharing as you learn more.
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Catmannn
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Posted - 05/04/2003 : 23:06:12
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It is my understanding that after George's fathers war in 91, a public adjusting company out of New York City was awarded the war rebubation claims. Funny thought they did Insurance Adjusters. It would be my suggestion that any you thinking about it talk in lenght abbut the conditions in the country prior to taking a "vacation" in a war zone.
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