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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 8:04:02 PM
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swink_d
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It appears the gospel of Anna is rapidly dissappearing,,,....I started
reviewing her posts to see what all the hubub was about and most have
been edited this evening.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 8:15:53 PM
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Elliott
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Kevin-
I listened to everything you've said to me and I've had nothing but good to say about you until now. You have brought yourself down to a 2nd grade level in the way you handle yourself. I took everything you showed me on our ride along to heart. If you felt I was such an idiot, why did you feel so compeled to ask me in the first place? I had some first impressions of you, myself, but felt inclined to keep them to myself out of respect.
Just as you guys get tired of repeated questions, etc. from newbees, we get tired of logging on to be bashed, smashed and belittled by those who think they are above everyone else. I have blocked your posts to prevent any further negativity. You're contributing nothing of substance at this point yourself except insults. Tom_Toll's post today on the Lott vs. State Farm thread says it all.
Dirt & others: Great idea about the Newbee thread coming with the welcome letter for newbees, perhaps, if implemented, will prevent situations like this for all.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 8:20:10 PM
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Admin
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I see no need to make any visitor feel bad just because you disagree with the content a post or for any reason for that matter. Please refrain from making negative comments about other posters.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 8:24:23 PM
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CharlesC
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Anna
I think that you need to take your disagreements and bitterness off the CADO public forum and email direct to anyone you have a bone to pick with. I for one am tired of reading all this stuff.
I come here looking for information (real information from someone who knows what they are saying from Experience in the adjusting field).
I would prefer not to hear anymore of the dribble of today's postings. I wish you the very best, but Please get off the public postings!!
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 8:28:38 PM
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rhking
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Admin
I see no need to make any visitor feel bad just because you disagree with the content a post or for any reason for that matter. Please refrain from making negative comments about other posters.
Well said.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 8:57:59 PM
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RKM
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I'm not sure what CADO has become.... I only know that I find it to be an invaluable tool in learning about an industry which I hope to become more involved in. As I (and others) have said before....there is an incredible amount of information to be gleaned from all of the articles and posts. I, for one, appreciate all of the dedication the seasoned adjusters have for this site. They are the ones that make this place so successful, not us newbies. They could just pack it up and travel in their own social circles...and then where would all of us newbies be? Up the proverbial creek I dare say.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 9:12:38 PM
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Clayton Carr
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Well ladies and gentlemen, finally a topic worth trying to find a way to log in away from home.
Odd that this thread is in a forum that says guests can post without log in, and even with my somewhat disadvantaged technology quotient tested to the limit, it was an impossibility.
Hours later I see Roy has chimed in, with his usual message of temperrance; and I have to agree within the context of the issues on this thread.
Kevin's opening post is not new, it is something I and others have tried to talk about over the last 3 years, about twice a year.
However, as the thread turned more sour, and away from the real questions in Kevin's post, lets all look back; nothing has changed.
Many of us will remember Gil, respectfully the old goat as I at times referred to him, who had a big heart and a goal, but when he entered CADO a few years ago was totally void of any claims insight. We tolerated him, became used to his misguided questions and redundant answers. Because he was simply very humble, did we tolerate his barrage of questions and 'Gilisms'?
There have been other like Gil, in the past, currently and will be in the future.
I lost interest in participating in CADO forums late last year because - as I said more than once in 2004 and 2005 - it was becoming a nonspecific chat room environment and had little substantive discussion.
I don't agree with much of what the Anna lady has posted, but haven't studied it for any value added information; but my oh my, you collectively have given her a pretty severe 'tar and feathering' as the old Ghostbuster used to profess.
CADO lacks substance in a cyclical nature, but each find value in their own way. My favorites are coverage or pure claim scenarios that make one think hard, review, or do some research to create a credible response.
Another recent thread has made me shake my head - the one started by the 'Paintlady'. I suppose my concerns are routed in the old chat about the lack of real names being used. I can recognize the wish or thirst of some to wad in and suggest or formulate conclusions. However, who really is the 'Paintlady', I don't know, you don't know. It could be a disadvantaged policyholder, or an adjuster who is testing the water for their misguided deeds, or could be a contractor doing the same.
Anyway, leaving Anna out of any relevance to Kevin's opening post, I do agree that most times CADO is reduced to a type of unreliable blog.
Comparatively, have a look at the F&S coverage threads where serious coverage and claim questions are posed, and logical and supported answers are given.
That's it, that's all.
Clayton Carr
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 9:13:33 PM
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tiwiii
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I kind of like all the drama. Sometimes it's fun to read.
For years I have lurked around this site, and it has pretty much been about the way it is, at least from what I have seen. The only difference now is that it has been multiplied by the miriad of new adjusters and want to be adjusters that this unusual two storm years have brought to this site. It's tiring, but I scan the posts very quickly and choose what I want to read. The only time I really get offended is when someone thinks this business should be handed to them. I had to work hard for years, making contacts, going broke, working hard and going broke again before the greener pastures I saw as a staff adjuster paid off as an independent. Oh well, I went back because there are too few good IAs; and I got tired of being lumped in with the rest. Plus now I don't have to pay for gas...lol.
Apologize about my interjection, all comments are good to read seems like it provokes thought and insight. I just ignore the dumb ones. Probably will ignore my own.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 9:36:55 PM
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mh0825
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Off topic but welcome back Mr. Carr.
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/11/2006 10:00:48 PM
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kilo
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If this is off topic let me apologize In Advance
I will be the first to admit I’m guilty of most of what Kevin addressed. I know I have posted off topic in threads. But so have most, if not all posters.
I also know that the language in the policy is clear cut, I read so much (sorry for using this word) debate over interpretation or application in a given scenario that at times I think there is Insurance English and Every day English, and most cat adjusters talk in code.
If you don’t like someone’s’ posts two words……. RED HAND
To JimF and all the Old timers: Newcomers are no threat to you, or this Industry never, have been, never will be. Speaking from first hand knowledge 85 to 90% of the people whose reason for entering this profession was monetarily motivated will drop out the first year. In time they too will learn that to make a small fortune in cat adjusting? … you need to start out with a large one!
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RE: What has CADO become? - 1/12/2006 10:24:28 AM
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Jgoodman
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I have been reading CADO at least weekly since 1996.
Back then it was hosted on AOL in some sort of way. Dave Hood, an adjuster I had known for a year or so, told me about it. I was working tornado and hail claims for GAB in Luaval (Louisville), KY from the beginning of May until I left to work Fran flood claims in Wilmington, NC.
As I had become an adjuster since I had written an estimating system and found it easier to make a living as an adjuster than I did selling estimating software; I found this intersection between my two professional interests enthralling.
I soon found that most of the stuff posted on the site was chaff. Valuable information was available, but it took much wading through waste product to find the valuable information.
And this was the first on-line knowledge sharing mechanism I used.
I since have become part of listserves, newsgroups, bulletin boards, blogs, and forums such as CADO's. I have many varied interests so the topics of these discussions are widespread. I develop custom applications, so I spend time on the MSDN (Microsoft Developers Network) forums, both the public and the private. I support networks so I spend time on the Microsoft Technet Supported Newsgroups where Microsoft support TRIES to help me solve real-world problems. I have played the bass guitar for twenty years so I read the bass guitar newsgroups. As a musician, I follow many musicians and use the discussion boards on their web sites and fan sites. I am on the Listserve for the fraternity I was in when I attended college.
All of the public forums have this in common. All the gibberish is cyclical. I have watched it rise and fall on all of these forums over the years. In each, the posters who have the most to contribute are offended the by the bile spewers, pontificators and attention seekers and leave the forum. Some come back, some do not. The forums are the poorer for it. That is another constant. This is because they are open public forums.
I think if you went to any street corner in any city and started a discussion you would get the same result. Some people would add to the conversation in an intelligent manner, some would just strive to get everyone to look at them, a few would scream out loud, a few will be trying to sell something, and one will talk only to the nearest building. At times, a large number of people will take part, and, at times, few people will take part.
With the two incredibly busy storm seasons, now is a time that a large number of people use CADO. That means more newbie adjusters who will become competent adjusters, more newbie adjuster who will not become competent adjusters, more competent adjusters, and maybe a few posters tilting at windmills. It will pass like the other cycles did, bringing in more posters, alienating some good posters, but eventually passing on.
The only way to stop this is to make it a closed forum. Have someone who researches the qualifications of the poster before they are allowed to post. The only forums I have used the last ten years that stay helpful, at least attempting to remain helpful, are the support forums for Microsoft and the other manufacturers. And that is because the host of the forum makes sure the posters are qualified to be posting. Microsoft makes sure you are a computer business before granting you access to the Partner programs.
This is impossible here on CADO. So it is what it is. One must accept it as it is, or just quit reading it. Just like all the other open Internet forums out there. Ignore what you do not like. Read what you do like. It is the wild and wooly Internet, not a structured classroom.
What I find amusing are the posts like, "I just finished my Katrina assignment. I am ready to go any where and work. Who has claims?", when for most adjusters that just got into the business, there will be no other assignment until next year. And that is if we have hurricanes. For most of the summers I have been involved in the industry, there is little hurricane work, so very few adjusters work. This is a harsh reality someone with less than two years experience in this industry cannot understand, having just experienced two of the busiest seasons ever.
I hope all are well and prospering.
Jeff Goodman
Good Man Adjusting
Goodman Enterprises - One Man's Software
www.stormcentral.com
< Message edited by Jgoodman -- 1/12/2006 10:43:22 AM >
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