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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 10:23:08 PM
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persdawg
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That was ridiculous.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 10:26:41 PM
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Fishhead
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Now I remember why I don't watch network TV! That was the most skewed one-sided load of **** I've ever seen. No doubt the previous post about the editing tricks were right on the money. Like State Farm is gonna know who two IA's are anyway. I'll say this-State Farm is the only company for which I have worked, and in every situation where a grey area existed, they instructed me to err on the side of the policyholder. 'Nuff said. I hope that this does not affect independent firms relationship with State Farm, and I hope that State Farm gets a chance to nail these idiots and prove them to be liars for all the world to see. I suspect that this will not happen, and I suspect State Farm will have second thoughts about using IA's in the future.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 10:27:42 PM
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Longhorns
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State Farm handled that poorly, for sure. Sending a lawyer unfamiliar with the case to do the interview? Very bad. So now why did that doctor and the two refugees NOT buy flood insurance when they lived ON A BEACH SUBJECT TO HURRICANES???????
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 10:32:56 PM
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rhking
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ORIGINAL: Longhorns State Farm handled that poorly, for sure. Sending a lawyer unfamiliar with the case to do the interview? Very bad. Very bad indeed - can't dispute what you don't "know". I suspect that there is some truth to what these girls are saying; or at least enough truth to cast a shadow on SF practices. Scruggs just made a few million more.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 10:46:22 PM
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sbeau4014
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Best I can tell, Scruggs didn't fair too well in the 1st trial that they took to court on the Katrina mess.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 10:57:45 PM
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heretodaygonetomorro
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ORIGINAL: Longhorns State Farm handled that poorly, for sure. Sending a lawyer unfamiliar with the case to do the interview? Very bad. So now why did that doctor and the two refugees NOT buy flood insurance when they lived ON A BEACH SUBJECT TO HURRICANES??????? The doctor probably had the house paid off but probably DID have flood insurance since he had lived on the coast for quite some years as did the refugee family since they probaly had a mortgage and it was required. That doesn't fit with the storyline of State Farm screwing policyholders so the editors would not include it. They would say "Well, THAT payment came from the NFIP and NOT SF so it doesn't matter!" There was NO WAY that was any semblance of responsible journalism. Anyone heard what vendor those 2 worked for? (Bet that vendor is '****ing up cotton' 'bout now! Kissed their biggest account bye-bye!) Hope those girls enjoy their time in the limelight and Scruggs pays them beaucoup $$$ 'cause they will NEVER work in this industry another day in their lives!
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:01:26 PM
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kylehawk
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I personally have done considerable work for State Farm. Never once did I see the least bit of deception being perpetrated. With that said...for those of you that are not aware of it...Senator Trent Lott's claim was denied by State Farm and he is pissed. He is going after State Farm and the entire insurance industry. What does this have to do with the 20\20 segment? What they failed to mention is the attorney that is at the forefront of suing the insurance companies in Mississippi is Dickie Scruggs...Trent Lott's brother-in-law. I am not saying that State Farm is innocent...but let the investigate be completed before passing judgement. The media is real good about parading people on air that can say whatever they want.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:01:35 PM
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Longhorns
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:05:16 PM
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RedSupraT
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As someone else said, I bet the Renfore manager in charge of the SF account it sweating bricks at the moment.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:20:56 PM
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givemeroofs
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I thought the engineer who stated that his report was changed was pretty bad for someone. SF could have at least sent a PR person to smile on camera. How can they explain how 2 out of 3 reports cited wind damage, but they are using the one that says flood to deny the claim.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:39:58 PM
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Janice_Toll
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Posted on the ABC comments: "Tell "THEM" (adjusters and insurance companies)what you think by posting your comments to "THEIR PRIVATE FORUM" Oh, and while you are there, look around and find "Cletus The Adjuster". THESE are the kinds of people who are handling YOUR claims. Visit the Online Forums Posted by: Gustbuster | Aug 25, 2006 5:15:19 PM MHouchens@southernadjusting.com " "MH0825", is this you?
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:40:10 PM
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dcmarlin
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Totally one-sided reporting. Showing it near the one-year anniversary just added fuel to the fire. Hopefully, the truth will come out. But, will the news agencies report it if it is to SF's advantage and, thus, not a news story that will get high ratings?
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/25/2006 11:44:10 PM
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heretodaygonetomorro
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ORIGINAL: RedSupraT As someone else said, I bet the Renfore manager in charge of the SF account it sweating bricks at the moment. Renfroe, huh? Had a call from them today asking about availability. The Renfroe HR person that put those 2 on the payroll is the one that is going to get a 'come-to-Jesus' talking to on Monday before they get shown the door! Think the application process in EVERY VENDOR for cat postitions is in for a major overall bright and early Monday morning or maybe even tomorrow after HR gets called in to work on Saturday? You better have a squeaky clean reputation and be willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement which will cover EVERY POSSIBLE SCENARIO! (Also folks, do you think the 200+ guests who visit here regularly are ALL ADJUSTERS? Think again!)
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 12:08:16 AM
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Fishhead
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Yes it was Renfroe. You could see the letterhead that was being spewed out of the printer and it was their letterhead.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 1:05:28 AM
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Gale
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This has got to bite. On one of the TV’s at Back Yard Burgers tonight I saw a very splashy SF commercial talking up their Cat Team. If they have a multi-million dollar ad campaign running and the red jacket with the same name on it running on 20/20 that could mean that SF’s ad campaign just boosted the effect of the 20/20 story tonight. That has to bite. What percentage of views will buy into the story? I guess that will also get picked up on the SF inhales dot com type sites. We all have seen carriers make false steps but I do not think any criminal actions are planned at the board room level. Overall people are honest however greed can be found in about any group. SF must have had 1000’s of cases like this over the last 80+ years and this one only be a blip on the radar and it will disappear when the news media creates the next hot news story.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 1:10:21 AM
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PvtNvestigator
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Decided to take a break from driving to Minnesota and check in on tonight's CADO post and Wow! I wish that I would have caught tonight's broadcast. Even more I wish that I had the time to look into those two young ladies' backgrounds and see if there is some other motivating factors involved here for them. All I can say is that I sure hope that they have a great deal more than their "observations" to back them up. Having worked for the Farm on past occasions, I personally have found them one of the most, if not the most, professional company when it comes to handling cat claims. Just my opinion and it may be limited, but from the quality of SF personnel that I have crossed paths with I personally find this difficult to believe. Knowing how the media has to edit the content to provided fuel for fire, I can't wait to see this hit a federal court somewhere and eventually become public record. It should be an interesting read one day.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 3:48:43 AM
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tesseract
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Wind vs Water...the fact they oppose one another is the root of the problem. The Feds and their monopolistic "affordable" water coverage has to end. Homeowners need to be able to purchase coverage for the value of their homes without the gaps and conflicts of responsibilities of who covers what. We need a universal coverage that would end lawsiuts, ruined lives, etc...Homeowners need to be protected against loss in exchange of premiums based on value and risk... buy it - you're covered against hurricanes by wind, surge, whatever...period. Is anyone really surprised by this 20/20 story?, given the fact FEMA dictates HO insurance coverages and how we are to cover coastal hurricane claims? Conflict is integrated into our laws. Meanwhile, adjusters are too often just cannon fodder in the battle of liability with homeowners and carriers, who thought they did everything right yet end up homeless.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 4:16:56 AM
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StormAdj
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I've worked many storms as an Independent Adjuster for State Farm & have always been instructed to make sure all damage is included in the Estimate. Always give the Customer the benefit of the doubt & I have never been asked to do anything dishonest or unfair. State Farm (like every other Insurance Company) has re-insurance, but if the damage isn't covered, it isn't covered. I've been a staff Adjuster for the last 5 years & just wanted to let everyone here know, an Email is out company wide looking for staff volunteers to handle cat claims. The company doesn't want to use Independent Adjusters any more due to "Customer Service issues". Guess you can all thank the 2 ladies on 20/20 last night for that.
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 5:04:56 AM
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racko
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RE: state farm insurance company - 8/26/2006 5:48:52 AM
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christian
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I worked flood only in Bay St Louis last year. I recognized the area noted by 20/20 as the Doctor's home (slab). This was on North Beach Road, Bay St Louis. I was tasked for flood only but could not ignore the fact that the wind pattern and tree damage resembled vortex throughout the neighborhood. One firm was able to verify from their engineering report that their midrise buildings were lifted up at the third story level breaking hurricane straps.
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