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what else??? - 9/6/2006 7:59:12 PM
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garyw
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I have 15 yrs. experience in Residential Construction,and have been a self employed Contractor for 5 yrs,I started riding with a friend who is an Adjuster about 6 months ago to learn the ropes.I have spent X amount of money on xactimate course,Texas pre-licensing and Alabama licensing.The estimating,documenting and estimate writing came easy,but xactimate skill's are minimal and must be used in mock estimates often,so I do not forget what I do know.Resumes have been sent all over,and the only responses yet are from some Companies wanting me to spend more money for "this and that" classes.Am I getting into money pit,or will I likely soon enough be offered an assignment,and if so on what basis.
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 8:14:34 PM
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Tom_Toll
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Gary, unfortunately work is not guranteed in this business. We must have events that allow companies to need extra staffing. Hang in there if you can. Don't give up. Send as many resumes as possible to all vendors.
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 8:21:12 PM
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garyw
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Thanks Tom, what are the demands (roughly) for day Claims Adjuster's,and are most of those positions taken?
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 8:28:48 PM
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DAVIDR
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A great company to start with is Pilot. You will have to go through their process. Part is a three day evalution.
They do not charge, but you pay all your own expenses there and back. They explain what the expectations are
of a cat adjuster. They also will explain some basics of estimating. There is a test at the end to determine your
skills. They will sit down with you at the end and are very up front if there is a fit.If there is a fit ,request to work
under one of their TAs his name is Tom Isabell, you will not go wrong.By the way, I felt the same way when I
started, laid out alot of money on "blind faith"... It Works !
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 8:30:51 PM
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texascat
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If your looking for Cat work it's going to depend on the weather. So far there hasn’t been much going on this year. I consider myself fortunate to still be working cleanup for hurricane Rita claims. There are many seasoned adjusters sitting on the bench, it will take a couple large events before the vendors start sending out newbie’s.
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 8:54:48 PM
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LAW1526
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I highly recommend you take the time and research this web site and the forum archives. Every question you have asked and many you have not are all answered on this site. If you realize you do not have the patience or the time to do the research it will be your fist indication you may not want to become a catadjuster. This profession requires a lot of research and documentation.
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 9:34:39 PM
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persdawg
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Probability: You will not get a call for any work unless Katrina II or two Cat 4's hit.
Why would a company vest time in training a newbie when there are many seasoned and new, yet experienced, adjusters sitting at home.
It doesn't make sense.
If I'm running a claims co., I want people to make me money as soon as possible without making alot of mistakes. And taking time to train someone who has zero experience doesn't fit that criteria.
Not saying that you couldn't do this-or be successful-
You should probably know how the whole thing works if you rode with your buddy, but that won't make a difference when it comes time to pick-n-choose.
There are just too many adjusters that have gotten some run in the last two years at this point.
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RE: what else??? - 9/6/2006 10:06:48 PM
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tiwiii
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Gary,
You got a tough road to go. You may want to not give up your steady job at this point in the year. However, you are on the right track in preparing yourself to handle insurance claims. Try signing up to take CPCU or AIC course. This may help you think more like an adjuster and help with coverage analysis'. Also a recognized designation, means you have made the effort to expand your knowledge of insurance.
The unfortunate thing is for people coming from a contractor background or whatever without a few years working for a carrier and getting the policy background, it is difficult to role out to IA work. Sure the past couple of years it has happened, but how often are there Hurricane events like the past two years. You can do it, but it will take a lot of money, knocking on a lot of doors, and trying to make the right friends. This is to get in, then you got to do a good job and have a good attitude to stay in. (Or marry someone related...jk..lol)
Going to the Pilot, Eberls, Worley and some of the other large vendors' events will help you get noticed and give you the opportunity to make an impression.
On the other hand, you could seek out a staff position and let a company train you and help you get the background. Your construction experience may be very valuable to some carriers.
Anyways....Good luck and be persistent.
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RE: what else??? - 9/8/2006 2:05:29 AM
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rass3742
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I agree with tiwiii: right now you're paying someone else to get the training you need. You might consider finding a property adjuster trainee position; spend the next two years learning everything you can about property adjusting while they pay you. There are a lot of carriers that have trainee programs. You'll be able to learn without all the worries of making mistakes by having a carrier and supervisor behind you who have a vested interest in the proper outcome of your claim files. And you'll learn much more under that scenario than paying someone $300-500 for a crash course.
At the end of the day, the next two years are going to come and go either way; don't be sitting here two years from now still wishing someone would give you a chance.
Good luck whatever you decide.
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RE: what else??? - 9/8/2006 11:20:35 AM
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trader
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If I was a new person sitting at home waiting for a call that may never come. I would estimate my own house for a roof and complete interior water damage to walls, ceilings and floors and all the contents, with photos and a captioned report and send it to vendors to show them I could estimate an imagined severe windstorm loss.
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RE: what else??? - 9/8/2006 6:42:49 PM
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rass3742
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quote:
ORIGINAL: trader
If I was a new person sitting at home waiting for a call that may never come. I would estimate my own house for a roof and complete interior water damage to walls, ceilings and floors and all the contents, with photos and a captioned report and send it to vendors to show them I could estimate an imagined severe windstorm loss.
That's a great idea. Or when you're doing a ride-along with your friend, write up your own file alongside his official file. After you complete your estimate, you can compare it against his to see how close you came. Compare your captioned pictures too, to see if you are capturing the same things he is.
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RE: what else??? - 9/8/2006 7:31:51 PM
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catmart
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Thank you Ray, for sharing that idea on this site.
Is part of the exercise to identify water damage and to use the proper documentation to communicate the covered damage or do you recommend this as mainly an estimating demonstration?
What a great assignment ! Thanks.
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RE: what else??? - 9/8/2006 9:55:22 PM
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trader
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The roof was peeled and the inside was soaked. Just a good complete file exercise
< Message edited by trader -- 9/8/2006 10:29:16 PM >
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