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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  14:05:20  Show Profile
Roy posted a good note in the "Forum" forum, on the 18th titled, "Our Community"; I for one agree with all the points he raised. I wish there was no anonymous posting, but I also understand it can contribute to the depth of opinions and candor of some if used without malice; with the only alternative being a restricted form of membership or access.

I always look behind the 'user name' to see who or what is noted about the person posting.

With our rapidly growing member count - now at 2127, I often wonder what is the 'make up' of our community members. What do all these people do for a living, and their relationship to the insurance industry as a whole? Who is a 'cat adjuster', staff adjuster, IA adjuster, adjuster, carrier personnel, vendor, wannabe, etc etc? Often, reflecting on a person's comments, if time permits, I'll go to the 'Resume Section' and try and find the person there; to get a better 'snap shot'.

It is worthwhile to know our community better. It would be interesting to know the mix of our community.

Would it be of benefit to 'us', to make this a CADO project?

Ghostbuster

476 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  17:20:38  Show Profile
Claytie, Claytie, Claytie...

We've been thru this before. If some deviant soul wants to place a nom-de-plume on the profile page as say, any of the people on U.S. paper money, then there is no way short of finger prints and current notarized photographs to prove who one actually is, not to mention their true backgrounds.

It remains the window to the soul provided in a persons posts to ascertain the legitimacy of their message.

Who am I? Who are you? Who is anyone? Who we are is what we convey here in Roy's playhouse. If someone goes over the line, as we are all wont to do, then the assembled masses form a lynch mob and clean house, in a figuerative sense.

Posters come and go around here, and some hang around the bar to take up a sort of residence.
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  18:49:37  Show Profile
Kind of knew I could count on you for that viewpoint. Anonymity was really my secondary thought or concern; you are the primary redeeming benefit of the phantom voice.

Wouldn't you have some interest in knowing whether someone from the insurance industry makes any given comment?

Just about this time of year we used to "do up" one our own dry (never to be wet) heifers after letting her gorge on good grains and corn for about 6 weeks. When I looked around to absorb opinions on technique and cutting styles, I wanted to know if they were coming from a butcher, baker or candlestick maker.

As 'Jimmy' pointed out to me on a different topic, names can cut to the cuticle quickly. Your reference to me makes me graciously apologize to him. If I hadn't irritated my mother for at least 1/2 a day, she would call me what you did. I put a stop to 'it' on my 11th birthday. Alas, now as she nears 90, she has reverted back to it. I beg of you, can I please limit 'it' to her? Thank you in advance.

Edited by - CCarr on 12/19/2002 18:59:33
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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  20:16:20  Show Profile
Well said Ghost, but seriously maybe Roy and the crew could send out a questionaire e-mail to the mailing list with a few simple questions like ' are you an adjuster" and what is your role in adjusting etc, that might give us a sense of who is here. ps does mold duty count as adjusting or butchering trees.
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Ghostbuster

476 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  23:22:43  Show Profile
Fair enough, Clayton, but only if you concede that at heart, we are all just a bunch of 10 year old boys with the big boys toys.

Actually...I don't mind logging in. It saves time when the mood to post an entry is inspired.
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JimF

USA
1014 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  23:42:09  Show Profile
Memo to Ghostbuster:

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

He who dies with the most toys is still dead.

Wasn't that Leonardo DaVinci who said that?

(And Puh-leeze, no epistolaries on the machinations of Shakespeare).

Edited by - JimF on 12/19/2002 23:49:50
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Justin

USA
137 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2002 :  00:33:21  Show Profile
AND .............. bis pueri senes

Claytie, Claytie, Claytie, it means .... Old men are twice boys

Edited by - Justin on 12/20/2002 01:10:59
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2002 :  00:54:29  Show Profile
Sure Ghost you log in to make posting easier, but when someone is curious about who is that scribe who can paint pictures with words, and goes to your User profile, they are no wiser; other than the Bermuda Triangle seems to fit sometimes.

The point I was getting at was that if someone chose to look in a User Profile to see what the poster does in relation to the insurance industry, to add that to their consideration of the comments - it's not there. Further, I think it would be useful for all of us to know the proportionate make up of our community, generally with the categories I mentioned earlier.

Anyway, Toys are nice, and I do concede to that notion.

Justin, give me a break! I gave up Latin after grade 9, what are you saying?
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JimF

USA
1014 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2002 :  01:10:57  Show Profile
bis pueri senes: Old men are boys twice.

Maybe he thinks you and Ghostbuster are a couple of sexy senior citizens and not dirty old men?

Edited by - JimF on 12/20/2002 01:17:05
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Ghostbuster

476 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2002 :  10:24:10  Show Profile
Gee Whiz, CCARR. Yeah, while your profile is somewhat more prolific than mine, mine is more than JIMF. If you'll recall, my profile, that we had prior to the BIG changes Roy did here, was far more comprehensive. I just didn't feel like replicating it all over again. (Us lil' boys get easily bored.)

Anyways, a profile can easily be falsified in the same manner that a phony college diploma and 'certified' transcript can be bought to concoct a fraudulent resume. We have all seen over the years where some high up honcho finally gets caught when he/she slips up and the truth comes out. The delicious irony is that the poor soul was just last week pontificating on the need for higher ethics. But then, just like at my wedding, the ax fell swiftly!

So, yeah, I guess it would be nice to know a little more about a poster, but the real glimpse into that soul is thru the post itself.

On a side note, I can't get out of my minds eye the tornado hitting that Mississippi Walmart and all those blue Walmart bags with the happy faces fluttering around like that feather in 'Forrest Gump'.

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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2002 :  11:59:33  Show Profile
And if this had happened in Texas someone would sue the Walmart for their injuries.
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Linda

USA
127 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2002 :  08:04:44  Show Profile
Boys, boys, boys--

Speaking of toys, have you seen the new Generation 5 Distos? Got mine this week and it is truly remarkable. Much smaller and lighter and couldn't be easier to use! To top all this off, the prices have dropped.

Girls like toys, too!
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2002 :  11:22:19  Show Profile
Cann't pass up this opportunity, relative to the thread title.

Look at our "newest MEMBER" - josejoseph (as noted about 11.00 AM) - and her post in a new thread she created; which I hope is gone soon.

Now tell me (unless I am missing something that is not visually evident) why is this person a "member"? How many more of our "members" - quickly growing way past 2100 - have no apparent relationship to insurance, let alone claims?

This kind of 'open door' policy will come back and bite "us" some day. If the "membership" is allowed to erode to include; mail stuffers, home assemblers, Walmart associates, restaurant employees - anything not associated with the general insurance industry; what kind of "voice" does this community then have in regards to the foundation of its existence?

I for one would leave this community, if I came to believe that the 'open door' policy had allowed a migration of disinterested parties to dilute its purpose.
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Justin

USA
137 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2002 :  13:02:57  Show Profile
Anybody have any ideas on how to "regulate" access to this site to only adjusters? I know it is Roy's decision, but maybe we could offer some advice on how to acomplish this.
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2002 :  13:45:18  Show Profile
A can of old or too wet worms, it surely can be!

I see no problem (in fact I see benefits to it) with having the 'door' open to all in the general insurance industry.

Justin's word "regulate" I know will cause the hair to rise on some, at least on their arms if they are folicly challenged on top.

Perhaps our venerable administrator could have an online membership form, requiring completion by the person applying for membership, then requiring approval by the administrator - prior to that person be allowed to post. Anyone can enter our domain and read, but to be a member and participate should have controls.

There is no great detail required on the online form, details of which would be private to the administrator; as opposed to the elective and visual info of the "User Profile".

However, the info would require real names, etc, and a "tick box" type entry to be made by the applicant of the various types of related functions the person has exposure to in the general insurance industry; and with who or whom they are or have been.

I would further suggest that several "types" of member are then created as follows;

"Active Member" - cat adjuster, any carrier claims adjusters, any IA adjusters

"Vendor Member" - any claims vendor or claims vendor personnel (other than the actual IA adjuster, but including cat claims vendors, IA vendors, roofers, siders, contractors, the whole host of 'PV' type vendors)

"Associate Member" - Underwriters, agents, public adjusters, "specialists" (i.e. engineers, FD, PD), and 'wannabe' active members (i.e. those who have not done any work associated with what an 'active member' has done, but is striving to attain the level required to do so and has given sufficient info on the registration form for that to be ascertained.

I'm sure I've missed some elements for the various levels, but you get my drift.

Perhaps the moderators can form a committee to assist the administrator with any verification that may be required to place a 'member' in the right category.
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Justin

USA
137 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2002 :  15:32:52  Show Profile
Clayton, perhaps I used the wrong wording in "REGULATE". Going back and rereading my post made the hair stand up on my arms also. What I was attempting to acomplish was exactly what you laid out in your post above, whereby you espoused the need for "types" of members. In no way should the free speech aspect be infringed, and I am sure Roy would not let this happen no matter what any of us believe. This may be a bigger can of worms than originally contemplated. I remember that we have had a "members only forum" for quite some time that HAS NOT been utilized by any appreciable number of members. Maybe we will have to do what Ghostbuster said and let each individual post reflect the true "value" of the individual making said post. This may be a fruitless endeavor, however, it is something that should be explored.
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