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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2003 :  08:47:08  Show Profile
I don't see the point of setting up an actual poll tally, few people use it anyway.

If you look around the forums, it appears most, if not all (other than a handful) do not care to participate. That is, there is a very high majority of just seemingly casual viewers, with very few people entering any of the technical or business related forums to provide their thoughts.

I have my own opinions on this, but I no longer see the point of expressing them.

Look at some of the stats that I pulled from the forums this morning, taking my counts about 09.00.

"Hot Sex" forum (1/8 @ 20.32)= 13 hours
> 8 replies
> 83 reads
> ave reply/hr = .62
> ave read/he = 6.4

"Quality Control - Cats" forum (1/8 @08.49) = 24 hours
> 2 replies
> 80 reads
> ave reply/hr = .08
> ave read/hr = 3.3

"How to handle Contents losses" forum (1/7 @22.56) = 34 hours
> 4 replies
> 50 reads
> ave reply/hr = .11
> ave read/hr = 1.4

"Sticky Poll: Convention 2003" forum (11/19 @ 22.40) = 1210 hrs
> 8 replies
> 886 reads
ave reply/hr = .006
ave read/hr = .73

There is many more illustrations of this.

Looking at just two topic areas, the "Coverage" forum and the "General" forum, maybe this illustrates it better;

Coverage forum - "used for discussion of coverage related topics"

1st page = 20 forums created
> CCarr = 3 forums created = 15% of total
> JimF = 5 forums created = 25% of total
> between those two, of the 11 most current forums 8, or 73% were created by these two

General forum - "used for discussion of industry related topics"

1st page = 20 forums created
> CCarr = 6 forums created = 30% of total
> JimF = 5 forums created = 25% of total
> between those two, of the 11 most current forums 6, or 55% were created by these two.

Now I certainly am not here to speak on behalf of Mr. Flynt, but I don't think he is asking questions or creating these questions; because he doesn't know the answer.

It is certainly not my intent, nor has it been, to monopolize these forums. But, now in hindsight, I don't like the trend.

I think, with no disrespect to Roy at all, that this web site has lost its focus, and I think that is due to the make up of the members. All the members may be lovely and great people, I am not suggesting otherwise; however very very few create forums of their concern, and a very small percentage participate in any forum.

I personally just don't see much of a value anymore with the very limited input occurring. I have certainly grown tired of reading my own commentary that I took the time to put into writing; and had great difficulty in convincing myself to make this post because I sense the outcome of it.

If you want to change the focus to fishing, hunting, travel or things like that; maybe then others will have more to say and then I can enjoy the commentary of others.

But this site has become the depository of a very few who have anything to say, and a repository of the many to seem content to just look in now and then.

Edited by - CCarr on 01/09/2003 09:17:31

Newt

USA
657 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2003 :  09:40:04  Show Profile
We seem to get more response from the simple claims and GOD forbid political topics. I could care less for the political and do enjoy the claims, how ever my taste may run contrary to others.

There are a lot of new members who could take advantage of this resource, as a step toward getting into this field.

I think there has been an increase in the numbers of people paticipating, however the ratio of that to membership is dismal.

No one should worry about their quality of posts because if anyone should it would have to be yours truly. I care but I am going to participate anyway, maybe I can get better.

Things I don't want to talk about is hair, legs, politics or getting old, and money.
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Justin

USA
137 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2003 :  11:03:16  Show Profile
Gee Clayton, with all this interest in SEX does this mean I will have to activate my blocking software before I visit here again?
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tomgriffin56

USA
88 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2003 :  13:43:43  Show Profile
I can't speak for others but I have been tied up for a while. I tend to pop in whenever I have to go on line to submit reports or download e-mails from my supervisors to see what has been going on and to track the current discussions. I usually pop in 2-4 times a day and then right back out. However, now that I have completed my latest assignment I intend to participate a little more. The fact that I haven't responded to many subjects does not mean I am disinterested but that I have been actively busy moving and ending the current assignment. I do agree that with the current level of employment it seems that there should have been more participation but what do I know?

Tom
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Newt

USA
657 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2003 :  15:39:54  Show Profile
Welcome back Tom, I think many are busy now, seems like in the past four months a lot of the membership is on the road, focused on the job. That a good deal and I hope it continues this year for everyone.

As for myself, I doesn't matter yet. Maybe in a five or six months I will get antsy and start begging for a job. At some point I have to start as an apprentice, because there is so many things we can't get out of books or this forum.

We are getting your weather here, warm sunshine and lots of wind. It took it a couple of days to get here.

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canduss

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  02:40:18  Show Profile
I want to read & participate in anything adjusters want to talk about........with the exception of criticism from old skeptic Canadian adjusters.........
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CatDaddy

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  10:06:38  Show Profile
I don’t know for sure because I do not have the access but I would imagine most of the members and visitors of this site login to read and share information about adjusting claims. When they get here, whether they are new or old members, and the only active topics for a whole week have been are “Religion, what’s the big deal?” and an 8 page thread on Iraq, the site appears just to be another one of those that was created for one purpose but actually isn’t about cat adjusting at all.

A “Hot Sex thread?” I was not aware of this thread. I cant wait to check all of the profiles of all of you who proclaimed your religious beliefs and see how many of you are regulars on that thread, all while shouting from the mountaintop. There are other websites for that boys and girls.

You want people to respond, talk about subjects they can identify with. Most are uncomfortable talking subjects like religion. It’s the ones who don’t have much faith that seem to want to talk about it the most. You each have your beliefs and are entitled to them. End of discussion.

It’s ok to discuss topics other than cat adjusting. We all have lives outside our jobs, well most of us do, and its nice to get to know each other on some personal level. Just pick your subjects and eventually get back to the business at hand. Its whats most of us are here for. If we need to create a “Soapbox” or “Hey, look at me” forum so you that need to can read your own words, I am sure Admin will comply if its will get us back on track..

I know that this site has probably produced threads that have talked about most of what our profession has to deal with. When you think you’re out of ideas, maybe its time to reintroduce an oldie. And when someone does bring up a previously reviewed topic, don’t reply in a laundry list of statements telling them to refer to 15 old threads and review the site more closely next time. Answer their question. New and old members are watching your actions. You slam an older member for asking simple question, do you think a new member will be inspired to ask a question or create a thread? Some of you may have nothing better to do than read the archives and have become warehouses of useless information. Others are still looking for an answer. That’s why they asked the question in the first place!
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  10:13:22  Show Profile
I, as well, want to read and participate, in anything adjusters want to talk about.

There is so much more I would like to say in response to the canduss post, but suffice would be to say that he should be well advised to skip over any posts he sees authored from any "old skeptic Canadian adjusters".

I though for a moment, that our prolific mini poster (15 in a short span last night) was referring to me; but alas, in reflection I can only identify with 50% of the label.

Canadian, and an adjuster, I am. However, I'm still able to reasonably shrug off the physical and mental trappings of "old"; and "skeptic" could not be found in my dictionary, so I can miraculously escape that as well.

But, in a search for what I am not, there is clearly one thing that I am; a thing that I believe is a worthwhile trait for an adjuster - a "sceptical person". According to my Oxford dictionary, it is, "a person inclined to question things, not believing easily". Without that, I think it is tough to be an effective adjuster.
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  11:11:20  Show Profile
Well Lannie, your post is certainly timely. As you noted with your 1st paragraph, CADO does seem to be functioning more as a 'chat room' forum for cultural and political topics of the day lately; and there has not been much 'technical' material for some time.

You should have a look at the "Hot Sex" thread. It did provide an interesting interlude, about the same time this thread was created. I do believe, that in part, this thread was created as a consequence of that thread; and tried to say the same things that you are now saying regarding the issue.

Obviously you know that I have to identify with your last paragraph, and accept your criticism found there. My actions taken in replying with a "laundry list", was done for numerous specific reasons (that there is no point in detailing here), and was time consuming. I didn't think then, and still don't think; those actions were a "slam" to "an older member". It was an honest effort to chronicle the collected data that was available to answer the question.

It is my hope, and that is why I harp sometimes regarding "off topic" posts, particularly in technical type threads; is that the forums can evolve into a reference database of sorts, so when questions are raised - if an answer lies within the forums - they can be found.

I'm not sure of 'what' or 'who' is the "warehouse of useless information", you refer to. If you think it is me - I don't care. If you think it is the older forums and forum archives - I don't agree. My attempt was to capture, from the forums, where the sought after information had been previously laid out or discussed; in an attempt to apply my ideal as noted above.
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KileAnderson

USA
875 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  11:40:51  Show Profile
I'd love to talk about adjusting topics, but there hasn't been a whole lot of work lately and that seems to be a big factor in new topics being brought up. When someone runs into a situation they have not seen before or when something happens between a carrier and an adjuster or a vendor and a carrier.

If you would look at the full list of forums, most of the topics you are complaining about are listed under "Almost Anything". If you don't want to discuss topics not related to adjusting, simply don't read them. I have never in my life had a conversation with anyone that stuck completely and totally to the topic at hand. Many times threads go off topic because it is a conversation and as you converse other topics come up. I like this and have no problem with it. I don't understand people who complain about off topic posts. If you don't like them either don't read them or make a post that is back on topic. I find it interesting that 10 times more people read the threads than actually post on them.
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ShermaninCO

USA
40 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  12:20:42  Show Profile
I for one decided to stop reading the politically inclined threads. I was initially reading them but refrained from posting. Finally decided it was not worth my time reading them. I read all other post and resond when I feel that I might have something to add, I tend not to post just for the sake of posting.
Coverage issues and equipment issues are the topis that I most enjoy.

Bill Sherman
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CatDaddy

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  12:51:37  Show Profile
CCarr - My statement about the "warehouse of useless information" was not directed at you. I think you bring alot to the table and your imput is always welcome and appreciated.

I am glad were are all on the same page and agree we need to get back to the business of doing business.

I'm gonna go take a peak at the "Hot Sex" thread now. I'll return after my batteries are charged!

CD
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mshort68

USA
138 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  13:17:24  Show Profile
If your that skeptical, how do you ever close a claim. What ever happened to giving the policyholder the benefit of the doubt.

The grass is always greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed!
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  15:00:57  Show Profile
Mike, if you are directing your "sceptical" question to me, there are a lot of claims that require the meaning of being sceptical to be applied i.e 'inclined to question things'. More so in liability claims and other property claims, other than weather related perils. What you hear, and what you see at a claim, too often don't mesh; hence the need to be inclined to question things.

I don't think I said, or inferred, that I was "that sceptical"; to prompt you to ask "how I ever close a claim". I do okay, thanks very much for asking.
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mshort68

USA
138 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  15:05:48  Show Profile
Sorry, never worked any liability stuff and don't really want to. Thanks for asking.

The grass is always greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed!
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CatDaddy

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2003 :  15:40:51  Show Profile
Wouldn't that be kind of an oxymoron? A liability working liability. Skeptical you'd have to be! (smile Shorty!)

Edited by - CatDaddy on 03/09/2003 16:41:37
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