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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
 Posted - 12/21/2002 : 17:32:46
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Justin I agree with the concern for "regulate". Free speech is not the issue. Using the 'members only forum', will not preclude 'Jose' the 'mail stuffer' from having access to that with her new found membership.
She came along very timely for the points I am raising in this thread.
I think her establishing a thread and her post in it - does not belong on CADO, but that is not the big deal.
Our 'membership' has escalated from some 1800 only about two months ago to now way over 2100. That can be great, if this site has attracted people with any kind of pursuit in the general insurance industry. However, if our ranks are filling up with the likes of 'Jose' - what is the point of that? Jose may be a wonderful person, but she and her like should search out a 'home based business' website, or the "Mail stuffers and home assemblers of America".
It isn't right, for a lot of reasons. |
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Ghostbuster
476 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2002 : 21:28:50
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Am I a witless dullard?
CCARR, where do you get for certain that Jose Joeseph is a feminina? Unless Jose is short for Josephina, Jose is a masculino.
Since I got my AARP card, I grow more confused each day. |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2002 : 21:58:12
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Well big fella, slap my ass and call me Judy, but - I don't know any, never seen any, never heard of any - males, that would do or advertise to do - home typing, home mailing, or home assembly at the kitchen table variety - in the fashion in which dear Jose wants you to do.
But as well, when I see that first name I immediately think of a striking french beauty that I met and worked with during the Ice Storm. That spelling and her beauty is pronounced "Joe-say", not Laredo Larry's brother "Hose-eh".
That and the dreams she mentioned, and it being Saturday night and all; well you see what I mean, eh? |
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Cheryl Joyce
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2003 : 00:38:38
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I've seen the need for Jose's skills many times while cattin. Heck I've prayed to have someone with a little experience to make my life easier and I could produce more and pay her. It's a shame I don't have the need right now.
Maybe a little symbol out beside the name or under the name to indicate each one of our category, kinda like it shows the town we are from. Just a suggestion.
And give her a break, she just might need the work and be good at it to. That is possible. I've been in the insurance business for 23 years, I've done it all, including "girl-Friday". Getting around and getting around experienced people in this field of work is part of training for the job. The more people you can be around you are most likely going to learn something from everyone of them and then that makes you twice as smart as them, cause you know what you know and then you know what they know. (haha) old joke I learned from my Grandfather when asked why he never talked. He said. I already know what I know and if I listen to you I know what you know and that makes me twice as smart as you.
So Jose is willing to help, learn and then when she feels she is ready for the hands on, she will have "knowledge" to go with the desire to succeed.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2003 : 06:51:37
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| I continue to stand firmly behind and in full support of all my posts to this thread, especially my 12/21/02 @ 11.22 post; in fact it would be correct to say that I do so with even greater conviction 'these days'. |
Edited by - CCarr on 02/14/2003 06:52:44 |
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Admin
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Posted - 02/15/2003 : 12:52:10
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CADO is not a big site nor do we draw a lot of traffic (19,554 visitors for the one week period ending 2/2/03) however, we are going to get our share of spam. One of the biggest things that has aided in reducing the amount of spam is requiring registration to post in any area of the site. Some of you may remember that you could post anywhere on the site without having to register or login.
The current Member's Forum is for paid members so while it is true that Jose could have become a member of that forum just by paying the $60.00 registration fee we would at least know who we were dealing because a real name, address and other information is required and confirmed.
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However, the info would require real names, etc, and a "tick box" type entry to be made by the applicant of the various types of related functions the person has exposure to in the general insurance industry; and with who or whom they are or have been.
I would further suggest that several "types" of member are then created as follows;
"Active Member" - cat adjuster, any carrier claims adjusters, any IA adjusters
"Vendor Member" - any claims vendor or claims vendor personnel (other than the actual IA adjuster, but including cat claims vendors, IA vendors, roofers, siders, contractors, the whole host of 'PV' type vendors)
"Associate Member" - Underwriters, agents, public adjusters, "specialists" (i.e. engineers, FD, PD), and 'wannabe' active members (i.e. those who have not done any work associated with what an 'active member' has done, but is striving to attain the level required to do so and has given sufficient info on the registration form for that to be ascertained.
The above can be done. However, we would need to rely on the honor system when it comes to the information provided due to our current resources.
We need to be careful because narrowing the opening could reduce the resource pool and the learning potential. I certainly do not want to do that.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2003 : 13:23:09
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Roy, I regretably have to agree with you regarding the required reliance on the honor system, if this was implemented; versus CADO resources.
However, reviewing the 3 types of members in the quote you brought forward, I fail to see how the 'opening' could be narrowed; it was intended to encompass everyone with a direct interest in claims or insurance. I fully agree that no one with any exposure to general insurance should not be able to pass through that 'opening'. The intent of the 'tag' of type of member, was to try and see what our mix of relationship to the industry is. I have reservations that your fast growing membership is 100% related to any element found within the 'tags' noted. The commentary from people, when constructive, by the nature of their involvement in the industry, carries a direct or indirect perspective of the niche they work in; and that is worthy to reflect on - if it is not stated in the 'user profile' or post. |
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Admin
547 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2003 : 15:25:39
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Clayton, I did not intent for my last paragraph to be connected directly to the quote. It was just a general comment.
I have some of the same reservations about the membership. I just now ran a query against one of the old databases. The field selected for the query was the occupation field that is part of the profile. Out of the 2200 register users in this old database only 327 had entered their occupation. Out of the 327 entries I found the following that may not be related to any element found within the types.
Auto parts store manager
Farmer
landman
meteorologist
restaurant owner
Wal-Mart Associate
Print Shop Owner
Then again they may be included in the "Associate Member" group. |
Roy Cupps -
CatAdjuster.org :: Contact\Feedback :: Adjuster Roster :: Current Forum |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2003 : 15:52:10
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Just as an observation Roy, from the data you provided, aside from increasing my concerns relative to this issue; I would not agree that other than the 'meteoroligist' belong as an 'associate member'. If there was any validity to the exercise as commented on in this thread, why would those other occupations have any relationship or interest to the profession of claims?
I belong to my local Adjusters Association, there was criteria to get into that. Although I enjoy the restaurant trade for many reasons, and the police profession for many reasons; each of those have an association with membership criteria that would prevent me from entering their group. Makes sense to me. |
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Admin
547 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2003 : 16:05:42
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Clayton,
You listed "wannabe" in your description as "Associate Member". Some of the occupations listed may be from visitors that are seeking a career in our industry and may be able to meet the criteria that you listed. |
Roy Cupps -
CatAdjuster.org :: Contact\Feedback :: Adjuster Roster :: Current Forum |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2003 : 16:31:06
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Yes Roy, I did list 'wannabe' active member in the associate group; but I did that with a clarification as noted in the quote you brought down as follows' ".... 'wannabe' active member (i.e. those who have not done any work associated with that of an 'active member' has done, but is striving to attain the level required to do so and has given sufficient info on the registration form for that to be ascertained".
Striving to attain the required level required to do so - could be as simple as a simple Texas license, or one of the many easy to obtain certifications. It is still the effort, the step taken, the measure beyond the point of nothing; the committment.
The crux of my thoughts on this thread are as noted when 'Jose' appeared and I made my 12/21 11.22 post - and the concerns I expressed there relative to dilution of our 'group'. |
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whitstorm
USA
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Posted - 02/19/2003 : 09:02:19
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I agree with Roy's post above. It would be simple for everyone (at least the active "posters" to completely fill out the membership form (including their Real Name, City located in, either Company they work for or Occupation). This information could/would only be available to other members who did the same. If people are making posts that "require" them to "hide" their information, then they should not be making posts. (?).
I enjoy reading posts on this site, and have actually found some people that I have met before "down the road" and have gotten back in touch with them. Others that I have sent messages to have not written back. A "Community" knows each other.
Just suggestions and comments -
Jeff Whittington
Independent Adjuster
Lafayette, IN (for now, at least)
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CatDaddy
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2003 : 09:59:28
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Whitstorm, it would be nice if it could be that way. Some people cannot handle that type of information in a professional manner. Situations in the past have proven that. Its unfortunate, but a fact.
CD
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whitstorm
USA
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Posted - 02/19/2003 : 12:53:11
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I absolutely also agree with that, Catdaddy. Like they say, "In a Perfect World", huh? I sure know what it's like to be contacted by people that misuse your personal information and send you/cloud you with useless information, or information that you could care less for.
I would just like to see the site stay the way it is- with "adjusters" (or people involved with claims, in general) making comments, posting topics, replying to topics, polls, forums, etc.
Nothing I was saying was directed to anyone on this site, in particular - just most site, in general. There's really no way to regulate, or discrimate against others and keep a good base. This site has a good setup with the access to PMs and E-mail, regardless of whatever other information people provide. I only send PMs to people to relay/transfer personal information - it is sad, but you're right- things (due to the access to/ use of information on the internet now), have almost gotten out of control - you never know who is seeing what you say, or do, anymore- and never know who anyone really is, unless you contact them directly. I have met some people that are in my same field (actually some that even work for the same company I do - that I hadn't met yet) through this site, and made some good contacts (you being one, Catdaddy).
This site has a lot of good information in the forums and a lot of good comments, questions, etc. that are bounced around. Especially during the off-season, it's a good medium to stay sharp and keep involved with the claims-world.
Hope to run across you out on the road this year, CD. We'll keep in touch.
Later
Jeff W. |
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CatDaddy
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2003 : 13:34:04
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I hope to see you out there Jeff. I keep looking for the day that someone walks up to me at a cat site and says "Aren't you CatDaddy?" That will make my day.
I do know a couple of long time CADO members personally but we were friends before they knew I was a CADO enthusiast. I get alittle over-vocal defending my points sometimes so I would imagine that is why they have chosen not to come to my defense, fearing they would be guilty by association. THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE! COWARDS!(I am kidding) I know Mshort68 very well but that's just because I am unlucky!
Next time you walk into a cat office, look for someone who is 6 foot tall, 315 pounds, wearing a golf hat and smiling. It could be me!
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