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odenspike
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Posted - 02/27/2003 : 00:27:13
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Well as a new member and this being my first post actually. I am not involved in the insurance business at all, but I joined this sight in order to learn some more about a possible career change from an Administrative Officer in the federal government to an IA in the near future and so far this is the most informative site I have found on the internet concerning insurance adjusting. I am sure other new people that have joined may be in a similiar situation to myself. Just thought I would give some food for thought for anybody who thinks it would be a good idea to only have this forum open to people who are directly involved in the insurance business.
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Newt
USA
657 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 07:07:56
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Charlie, Welcome to the Mad, Mad world of CADO, I am also new, been around nere for about nine months. Its been that long since I decided to get into Insurance as an adjuster, I joined just after I got my license. To my knowlege it is the only site where you can ask questions and get answers. Don't be a stranger and participate. Many join and never have any thing to say, and I think everyone has a story. Good Luck, Newt. |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2003 : 23:13:26
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Ladies and gentlemen, I started this thread not four months ago, when the "membership" numbers were about 2127; asking and wondering at that time "what is the 'make up' of our members".
After some rebuttal, a week later I brought to your attention the newest "member" that day, as an example of my opinion; a madam Jose, whose stated occupation is "mail stuffer" and kitchen table "home assembler".
More discussion took place, but soon fizzled.
I have also brought this topic into the recent discussion in the "What is it you want ...." thread, that I still owe Justin a reply to the questions he posed.
However, our 2692nd (approx) "member" joined today, a Helga Henderson. Helga has placed a rather lengthy and detailed "User profile". It is worthy of review, for various reasons. It can be accessed by clicking "members", and then clicking "H", and following that down to Helga.
I again caution the Administrator and all "members", of what the dilution of the "membership" by non-participants in the insurance industry, let alone the claims industry; will do to the credibility of this community.
We have had some 560 new "members" join in less than 4 months. Impressive? I don't think so. Do even 10% of them have something / anything to do within the insurance industry? I doubt it, and no one can convince me that that is a good thing. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2003 : 23:32:16
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Clayton, I just read Helga's profile. I see what you mean, what is that about? I couldn't make up something so strange if I tried. |
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Justin
USA
137 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2003 : 23:39:22
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Hey Clayton, she spells like an adjuster. Wouldnt you just love to read one of her captioned reports on a $600,000 loss. She does sound like a hot number, if I was not getting ready to run hail claims in DFW, I'd hit on her. But, Im busy, go ahead.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2003 : 23:45:33
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Justin, an adjuster she ain't. I seem to have a 30 year or so affinity to a woman in the same profession as me, so thank you very much, but I'll pass. |
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Admin
547 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 06:43:33
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About the reported member numbers. First the reported number is only a count of the registered "users" of the complete site. This number is not directly related to the forum which receives about 1/3 of the traffic to the site. However, the numbers started to increase when parts of the forum were close to public viewing and other areas like the Classifieds were changed to require a "user" account before posting. Many visitors may see topics that may interest them but would not be able to view the comments without a "user" account so they register for an account. I'm sure if people could view the account information of other niche sites they would see a number "registered users" that had nothing to do with the industry related to the site. It is not possible to limit registration to just those connected to our industry and still provide a resource to those that may have interest in our industry. The CADO Roster http://www.catadjuster.org/roster.asp and the CADO Membership http://www.catadjuster.org/members.asp may be a better indication of registered "users" who are connected to our industry. |
Roy Cupps - CatAdjuster.org :: Contact\Feedback :: Adjuster Roster :: Current Forum |
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tomgriffin56
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 08:00:11
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Clayton, I followed your lead and looked at Helga's bio. Vverrrry interesting! But I am not interested personally, thank you very much. While I was in the Member section I took the time to actually look at the number of posts each member had made (Has Newt wore his fingers out in the last nine months?). I see what you are getting at in your post, but I don't see an easily implemented answer that won't cause undue stress and extra work on our benefactor, Mr. Cupps. |
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tomgriffin56
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 08:12:56
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The only answer that I can see that would do anything like what you apparently would like Clayton, would be a vetting system manned by appointed current members of the site. They would be responsible for investigating the applications of the prospective members and making a decision as to their suitability for this site. There could be an open area for any visitors and a closed area for approved members. I don't know if this would be feasible or even to the approval of Mr. Cupps. There could also be some possible problems with discrimination. Also getting the required number of people to investigate the applications and determining what the minimum standards would be. |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 08:14:44
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First, a sincere welcome to "pelang", aka Paul Lang. Considering Paul's "user profile", he is an adjuster! Paul, I hope you become a keen contributor to this web site.
Roy, you provided an interesting stat, pointing out that the forum only receives 1/3 of the total traffic to the CADO web site.
I leave it to you regarding the technology of it not being possible to limit registration to just those connected to our industry, and your benevolence in providing a resource to the world at large. "Interest", has many meanings, whether it be in our industry or the study of kinetic energy.
I have to conclude from your post, with disappointment, that you are satisfied with the number of non-industry members joining your web site; and with that you disagree regarding the dilution comments I have made.
A nominal fee, of even $24.00 or $48.00 per year, would soon separate those with any real 'interest' in this industry; from those just looking for another chat room. |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 08:27:04
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Tom, a phrase we have seen bannered and bantered around this web site is "Adjuster to Adjuster", used I believe within the context of sharing with each other and learning from each other. That is just one part of the root of the dilution I see happening from the wide open doors. Aside from any logistics to remedy this, do you agree with the point I am trying to make? |
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Justin
USA
137 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 10:45:32
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Clayton, why the hang-up over non-adjusters looking in our windows? I cannot remember more than two or three non-adjuster posts that were really way off the wall, hell, I have done better than that in the past six months with some of my stupid posts. Actually one or two posts by non-adjusters have sparked some lively debate here lately. For instance the individual with the earthquake damage in LA area as an example.
Maybe you [we] should face the fact that CADO is also a melting pot. There are only a few who post here anyway from the adjuster community. May I suggest you [we] redirect your [our] efforts toward trying to get some of the non-participating adjuster members to participate to a greater degree.
It would be a shame if CADO turned into a dry boring internet school. Many turn to CADO to have fun and some lighthearted communication with others that share their profession.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 11:41:12
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Justin, it is not a 'hang up', just an opinion expressed (perhaps now too often); in this virtual shack that I share with you and others.
Much of what is expressed here, also applies to that other thread, "What do you want to ....?". It has been said by others, in that thread, that; "We have the voice" "We are the authority in matters where it counts" "We are a loud voice"
I don't share those views, for the reasons I've stated between the two threads; but I do wish we were each of those things.
You asked me a couple of questions in the other thread, which I am still working on as time permits; but in view of this issue let me turn it around for now so I can better understand your viewpoint.
How can CADO be representative of a group of adjusters, when that 'group' has a significant number of members who have nothing to do with insurance?
What potent effect(s) can or does CADO have on the claims industry, when CADO is comprised of a significant number of members who have nothing to do with insurance?
CADO can be a broad, diverse, and beneficial melting pot; just from the wide range of members from within the many niches of the insurance industry.
I have tried to encourage adjusters to participate more in CADO, and sadly can not claim much success at it. This thread is a good example of that, considering its 'life' in the last fews days alone - a lot of "hits / reads", but very few people who care to express an opinion if they have one.
I am not advocating that CADO become an 'internet school', of any kind. There is room (and at times need) for all the discussions that go on; and my thoughts on that are in the other thread. |
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Justin
USA
137 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 11:53:52
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Clayton, again I think you are missing my point. If tomorrow, 5000 Burger King managers (sorry Ghost) joined CADO and did absolutely NOTHING, like many of the current members, HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE CADO? We would still be the same, have the same contributors, have the same style, have the same benevolent webmaster, have the same amount of good -- bad --& indifferent posts, have the same educational sessions for those that want them, have the same humor, have the same sorrow, have the same indeference to fellow man, and on and on and on.
CADO is what it is, and has evolved into, why change it.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2003 : 12:13:48
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I see your point Justin, and clearly now, and you are 100% correct.
However, don't let anyone suggest that CADO, within the framework that you have defined (and I agree that exists), is potent, has authority, or is a voice of any kind to the industry. |
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