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KileAnderson
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 Posted - 03/19/2003 : 10:37:24
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| Claimsfool, what did Clinton do to achieve all of that? If you can't figure it out, he got elected after 12 years of Reagan/Bush and at the beginning of the tech boom. It was those 12 years that created the economy that Clinton enjoyed. Bill Clinton, on his own, did absolutely nothing to help the economy, if he had, maybe W wouldn't have inherited a recession when Clinton left office. |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 11:12:19
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Kile, your 09.57 post - it is rude and uncalled for to attempt to substantiate your negative take on a comment - "if you believe Bush is doing this to redeem his father" - by associating those of that opinion as drug users. We would understand your belief and thoughts just the same, if you had said; "you are wrong".
Also, I believe your comment on the cares of the UN is wrong. Over the years, the UN has done a lot to assist people around the world, in many ways. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 11:30:16
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Yes, the UN has done alot to assist people around the world in the past. But today Lybia holds the chair of the council on human rights and Iraq holds the chair on the council of disarmament. The UN is now merely an irrelevant debating society who holds the opinions of despotic regimes as equal to those of free democracies. The UN's new purpose has become thwarting the will of the free world by bogging it down in endless, meaningless debate. It serves no purpose.
If you are offended by my colorful language, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to accuse those of such oppinion of actualy using drugs. |
Edited by - KileAnderson on 03/19/2003 11:44:46 |
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JimF
USA
1014 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 12:04:24
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Kile, Kile, Kile.
You really need to run to the bookstore today and buy an unslanted history book of the Middle East and then read it.
While you're at it, you might want to buy a copy of the US Constitution and read it as well. You might just accidentally learn to whom and which branch of government our forefathers gave the power to declare war.
And while you're at it, you might want to buy a book or two on American Political History and read that as well. Somewhere and somehow you have strangely got your facts mixed up in so many differing ways regarding the Carter, Clinton and other Democratic Presidential Administrations.
Looks like you have one heck of a shopping list there and lots of good reading while waiting for the next storm.
You might even learn that America trained Osama, supported Sadaam, and the British of course took away the part of Iraq which is now Kuwait, and the hated 'terrorists' now were once America's beloved 'freedom fighters'!
Amazing what you can learn when you listen with an open mind.
While you're at it, please show us where Bennett, Bush, Chaney and Powell are demanding the same equal rights and liberties for the larger number of citizens of some of those other neighboring allied Arab countries where we have our jets, tanks and men parked, as they so cagely demand of Iraq.
There is only one word for the argument of Bush, Cheney, Powell and now Kile Anderson: HYPOCRISY.
Finally, men of reason and men of peace, understand that to be opposed to war does not make one pro-Sadaam or pro-anything else for that matter.
When and if we ever win the more critical crucial war against ignorance and illiteracy, then humanity and all it's warriors will lay down arms, and together share in the same liberty to live out their lives with purpose and happiness.
"Blessed are the peacemakers; for they shall be called the children of God." Matthew 5:9
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 12:40:05
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Jim, please look up the War Powers Act. Even though that doesn't even matter because Congress has already authorized Bush to do this 18 months ago.
Jimmy Carter was the worst President the US has ever had the misfortune to suffer followed closely by Bill Clinton. Carter also thought that monitoring and a promise from N. Korea would eliminate their "nukewlar" threat. It's amazing that a man with a PhD in the subject can't even pronounce it. Carter is todays version of Neville Chamberlain.
As far as the countries surrounding Iraq, all in due time, my friend.
Reports of Iraqi soldiers surrendering have already begun to trickle in. |
Edited by - KileAnderson on 03/19/2003 12:41:08 |
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Jeanette
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Posted - 03/19/2003 : 15:10:29
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| My vote would be to drop support for the UN and quit sending money and jobs overseas. I think we should have realized a long time ago that you can't buy friends. Walk softly and carry a big stick. (What good is the stick if you never use it?) |
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olderthendirt
USA
370 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 15:44:56
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| Even Walter Cronkite understnads the true failure of Bush 43. While I feel that Saddam has to be dealt with, the ugly american (as seen internationaly, not in the story) has been replaced by the Arrogant American. The method of phoning your allies and telling what to do has backfired and the world and Americians will suffer. The world is now even less trusting of the USA (it is possible). There will be numerous new terrorists who will cost us in the future. The great failure of Bush 43 is that he had to go to war without the UN, and with the abiding belief throughout the world that there are hidden motives. And a failure to find those WMDs will result in a massive backlash against Bush 43 and the repubs. Did hear Rush yesterday (15 minutes is all I can take without upchucking). He had a great story of how hearing the national anthem at the superbowl in 87 with a fly on the last note proved to him that only Rebulicans love America. Kile, it is possible to not trust Bush and still believe in America. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 15:51:14
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Two things, Mark, Cronkite is a flaming liberal so take what he says with a grain of salt.
Second, what I think Rush said was, "How can you see that and be a Democrat?" or at least that's the way I interpreted it.
(I took out what I said before because it sounds funny the way I was thinking it, but it seamed overly harsh in black an white.) |
Edited by - KileAnderson on 03/19/2003 16:06:12 |
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JimF
USA
1014 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 16:10:36
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| What litmus test did you use to determine that Walter Cronkite is a 'flaming liberal' and what is the difference under your categorization between a liberal and a flaming liberal? |
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olderthendirt
USA
370 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 17:26:11
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| A flaming liberal is any non Republican who has dared to question Texas's answer to Andrew Jackson |
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Newt
USA
657 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 19:44:44
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Any culture that has its foundation built on one relegion is oppresive.
The Middle East was noted for being the cradle of civilization, the problem is, its still in the cradle. Since 600BC it has remained captive to a belief that has enslaved them. To a system of government which impedes free thinking and opens the door for dictators to take over what they can eat, drink, think, eat or dream. Throughout history this has been true, The Romans, Aztecs, Incas, Vikings and even England had their day in history, where you think as I do or else.
When all people think alike, and try to force that belief on neighbors, they become stymied, brain dead as far as the world is concerned. When every one is of the same oppinion, they automaticly start hunting witches, non believers.
One thing the most advanced nations of the world has in common is the freedom to think, and how one worships is a personal thing, to have doubts and dreams. You have the right to go to hell, or where ever you want. That doesn't give you the right to take someone with you against their will.
Yes I am a pollitically incorrect bigot, I have that right and yet I don't expect everyone to agree with me. However don't get in my face and tell me how I should think toward an uncivilized group of heathens. This is not directed at any particular race or culture but toward individuals and groups of think alikes.
A statement can be made about a group of people and right away its taken as an affront to the whole race or culture. I guess the white male is the only one who is not offended by some one talking about red necks or white trash. I take that back, the CoonAsses have a sense of humor.
The whole human race has skeletons in their closet, even the Pope and the Grand Poo Bah in every culture. We have nothing to be proud of except what we are, yesterday was history and we don't need to drag that baggage around. We had nothing to do with making this a great nation, just be thankful you were born into it and do your best to preserve it. Tomorrow is a mystery and that will be to your fault or credit,as to how it turns out.
Ya'll have fun and debate, keep your sense of humor and be thankful we are different, I fear what we would become if we all thought alike. Probably like a bunch of red A** baboons fighting over a broken mirror. If you don't agree with me, stuff it, you bunch of right wing, liberal pinko's.
Don, I am kidding so give me credit for the dark side of this thread. We have the spead of light so why not the speed of dark.
The speed of dark is Newton's theory of space travel, Dark is there before light. Thats a compound
statement hung up in the neurons. Like another wonder, which direction is the North pole of a compass pointing to? It has to be the South, does that mean Clayton is a Southerner? Does that mean he has to say HUH instead of EH ? |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 20:01:00
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| A new breed of political thinker the right wing, liberal pinko. I'm headed over to Barnes and Noble to read up on this new group. |
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JimF
USA
1014 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 20:09:15
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Newt, glad to see you back Cuz. You add so much to the ambience of this Forum my friend! Even if I don't agree with you!
But Newt, Puhleeze!
Just don't associate all of us self respecting peace loving anti-war peacenik commie pinko appeasing environmental activist civil rights protesting card carrying members of the ACLU and NAACP Bush bashing Sadaam loving liberal sympathizers with those damn right-wingers.
You wanna give us a bad reputation? |
Edited by - JimF on 03/19/2003 20:33:22 |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 20:53:45
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Newton, you damned old goat, next time you slip off with the lads for more than two days at a time, to make another batch of mash; leave a note in the classroom or with your cuz; you're too old to go awo notice.
However, it is good to see you haven't lost your taste for speaking your mind; you are more than full measure to give Kile a run. Cann't agree with much of it, but it is interesting to read and your enthusiasm was missed. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2003 : 22:05:29
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| Oh, and Newt, as a full blooded coonass, I appreciate your recognition of our sense of humor. |
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