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CCarr
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 Posted - 05/09/2003 : 09:32:03
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Is there any 'stormtropper', or field cat adjuster not working or deployed today?
If that was where my bread was buttered, it would seem on the surface that the 'cows' of nature's violence have filled the larder for all who care to consume from the butter bowl of claims. I'll conclude that the CADO "On The Road" name depository doesn't seem to be well used, anyway I hope it is not an indication of 'troop deployment.
We tried to get a picture of the major component of the April event, concentrating on the 285,000 claims reported by the ISO for Texas which represented an estimated $885M in damage, followed in 2nd place by Missouri at $110M. That picture never developed, other than the outer fringes of it to give a mere glimpse of the responding activity regarding the claims.
Now, according to the Insurance Information Institute (III), the tornadoes that swept across the midwest this week, could cost insurers at least $325.M; making it one of the top five costliest tornado events on record.
I can't get an ISO cat event listing from their web site, so I am not aware at this point of which specific events will reach ISO listing status, or reported claim volume numbers.
However, in addition to the III reported information, other significant storm events have occurred in southern states.
Put the April events together with the current events, as there is still a sizeable contingent dealing with the Texas event; and it would seem to me that those "lists" we often talk about should be pretty well exhausted to their bottom names by this time.
If you are a willing and able 'cat adjuster', should you not be deployed by now? I don't know if the "system" is approaching the search for 'warm bodies' yet, but surely some 'wannabes', most 'newbies', and all past their virgin experience at this profession have been deployed by now as "field cat adjusters".
Am I reasonably accurate with this conclusion?
If not, why not?
Once again, only in an effort to seek the greatest participation and input of comments, please feel free to email or PM me; and I'll enter your comments in generic form in total confidentiality to you. |
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Kathy
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 10:18:16
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| Here in California our work is terribly slow and we are trying to get on a CAT. No one seems to be listening. Who do we call next? |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 10:42:42
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Hi Kathy, can you share with others what you have done to date in your, "trying to get on a cat"? What steps have you taken, and what barriers do you see that you may have encountered?
What do you mean by "no one seems to be listening"?
Using your last name, I did a search on the CADO "Roster" and the CADO "Resumes", and did not find you in either. I don't know to what extent vendors use those noted CADO resources, but if at all; you are missing out on that exposure.
Make sure you have a solid technical resume that tangibly illustrates your capabilities.
Go to the "How the pie was split ...." thread, and from my concluding summary get the 7 named vendors that were noted. With that, go to the CADO Resources "Employer" area, and call and / or email those and others regarding your availability.
I look forward to hearing further from you, and from others. |
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JimF
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 11:24:33
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Clayton:
I had hoped that your thread on "How the pie was split" would receive the attention it deserved. It was a worthwhile and ambitious project which could have been instrumental in showing all of us some directions this industry seems to be taking.
I don't really have a "feel" one way or the other for the current deployment climate out there, and like your thinking, it would seem that there is work for most if not all cat adjusters. However, the reality is that I know dozens of some of the best cat adjusters who are sitting at home by the phone waiting for that phone call.
Like you, I look forward to hearing what the take on these storm events are from many others scattered around the US on deployment.
I am aware of several cat adjusters who were deployed down in Dallas, but have finished and returned home, and are waiting to hopefully be sent out again. |
Edited by - JimF on 05/09/2003 11:26:36 |
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KsAir
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 11:32:03
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Originally posted by CCarr
Is there any 'stormtropper', or field cat adjuster not working or deployed today?
If that was where my bread was buttered, it would seem on the surface that the 'cows' of nature's violence have filled the larder for all who care to consume from the butter bowl of claims. I'll conclude that the CADO "On The Road" name depository doesn't seem to be well used, anyway I hope it is not an indication of 'troop deployment.
We tried to get a picture of the major component of the April event, concentrating on the 285,000 claims reported by the ISO for Texas which represented an estimated $885M in damage, followed in 2nd place by Missouri at $110M. That picture never developed, other than the outer fringes of it to give a mere glimpse of the responding activity regarding the claims.
Now, according to the Insurance Information Institute (III), the tornadoes that swept across the midwest this week, could cost insurers at least $325.M; making it one of the top five costliest tornado events on record.
I can't get an ISO cat event listing from their web site, so I am not aware at this point of which specific events will reach ISO listing status, or reported claim volume numbers.
However, in addition to the III reported information, other significant storm events have occurred in southern states.
Put the April events together with the current events, as there is still a sizeable contingent dealing with the Texas event; and it would seem to me that those "lists" we often talk about should be pretty well exhausted to their bottom names by this time.
If you are a willing and able 'cat adjuster', should you not be deployed by now? I don't know if the "system" is approaching the search for 'warm bodies' yet, but surely some 'wannabes', most 'newbies', and all past their virgin experience at this profession have been deployed by now as "field cat adjusters".
Am I reasonably accurate with this conclusion?
If not, why not?
Once again, only in an effort to seek the greatest participation and input of comments, please feel free to email or PM me; and I'll enter your comments in generic form in total confidentiality to you.
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KsAir
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 11:40:37
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OOPS! Although, I am new to the career, I have sent resumes out to several of the companies. I am willing and able, have checked in almost daily, live in Kansas, have all the equipment necessary to deploy, license and certifications and still waiting. I was wondering, if anybody has an idea what would keep me from being deployed?
I know people with less qualifications than I have that have gone out. Any suggestions would be appreciated. |
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 12:19:31
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Carol - reminds me of the old Johnny Cash song "A boy named Sue", and I see from the "Roster" that you have learned to live with that.
When you reflect on your statement, "I know people with less qualifications than I have that have gone out", can you identify any common reasons for their deployment versus any barriers you may have encountered? If you "know" these people, have you asked them about their discussions with vendors or what exactly they did to achieve deployment status?
Other than that, I have to echo to you, my thoughts posted to Kathy.
Although in searching CADO resources I did find you in the "Roster", nothing turned up in your name in the "resume" section.
You have to send out more than "several" resumes to gain your virgin deployment.
Make sure your resume is short, concise and technically sound for the specific profession you are trying to break into. Get on the phone, and in between that create a lot of email traffic to cat vendors and local I/A day to day vendors in your area. |
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KsAir
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 15:06:24
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Clayton,
Thanks so much for the advice. You are right about my name, it took me awhile before I realized it might be causing a little kink in things. People know of me here and it's never been a problem up until now.
Thanks for drawing the resume site to my attention. I didn't realize I could put out a resume on this site, I guess.
I have emailed my resume to the openings on this site and 10 vendors only to recieve one response. Unbelievable to me!! There is soo many states with distruction that everybody should be out somewhere.
I did just get a call from one company to go out on training for a daily fee. I am taking it! At least, it will get me out and started. Have to start somewhere.
This site is the only one I have found that people use the message board. Keep up the good work!!! This is a very informative site in which one can ask a question and get a response. I will be checking it often and probably asking more questions.
Thanks for the info & Have A Great Day!
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 15:32:29
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Well Carol that is great news! And, welcome to CADO as well.
These comments are specifically for you, but generally to all others in a similar boat paddling upstream.
You have gone from your 1st post saying you sent "several" resumes, to now saying you have sent 10. I can't emphasis enough how important it is to GET YOUR RESUME OUT THERE while you are still a virgin in this niche. Because everyone (vendors and adjusters) tend to hold their cards so close to their chests, there seems to be little exchange regarding manpower, and certainly not at the junior end of the scale. I would suggest that people send their resume to a minium of 20 vendors, and upwards to 50 (check the employer "ratings" first); to get their early exposure to the marketplace.
The vendor that retained you for training on a daily basis is to be commended. Do you care to share their name with us? There is nothing wrong with starting into this niche - with no prior insurance claims experience - in the manner in which you stated. This niche needs much more of that, under the right circumstances.
It is truly a great day when CADO can do something tangibly for someone, as exampled by Carol's events today. |
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KsAir
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 17:18:39
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Clayton,
I don't mind at all. It was Eberl's. I have been to one of their conferences in San Antonio. Enjoyed it and learned alot. I will be assisting another cat adjuster in Dallas on a training basis. Although, I haven't yet tested for State Farm (waiting for test date) I am thrill I have the chance to get out on some of their claims. Might even help me with the test. Hoping anyway!!
I agree with you. This certainly will help me do alot better job when I do get deployed on my own and will take out some of the first time field panic. Obviously, Eberl's wants the best representation they can get for their company.
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LAW1526
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2003 : 21:56:47
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Clayton.
I have received one vendor call on Monday for stand by. Unfortunately I was serving on jury duty and could not commit to a time. Normally I receive four to five calls by this time, I have only received the one call to date. The vendors must have read my post on the Hail, Hail, Hail thread and determined I'm to slow.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2003 : 22:22:58
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Lenny, I have to believe that the last sentence of your post was made by you in total jest. I don't think you should have any concerns about your productivity. Looking at your resume, there is certainly nothing there either that should hold you back. I did note with interest that we belong to the same "Downers Grove" alumni, having both served our stint at different times. It is scary in a way how 'that machine' and others like it, are gobbling up a lot of former field work.
Notwithstanding your current jury duty, it is a puzzle why you only got one standby call this week. However, looking at Jim's comments earlier, it seems to become a bigger puzzle. Then when you add in the recent comments posted in the "Pie split ...." thread concerning Farmers and Wardlaw; you have to wonder if there is a significant shift occurring regarding methodology.
Hopefully we will hear more from others. |
Edited by - CCarr on 05/09/2003 22:25:28 |
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LAW1526
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2003 : 10:12:09
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| Clayton, It was truly in jest. It,s hard to smile in type. I'm finished up with jury duty and will start calling on Monday to find out whats going on, if I don't get a call over the weekend. |
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Kelley
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2003 : 18:45:31
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Kathy,
Make sure companies who you will be willing to work with have a full resume packet from your prior to storm season. I spend my "off time" sending out our resume, copy of lic, cert, etc. to compaines my friend tell me about.
We are working in Texas & in the last week we have have recieved 9 calls from claim servicing companies wanting to put us to work. Some of these we have worked for & some we have not.
I call companies to see if they have work when I am not busy, I let them know we are available. If I am traveling out of town & would be willing to work while I am on "vacation" I will let some of my choice companies know. I have work numerious claims while I we are traveling & it lets the trip become a write off.
Utilize this site. Watch for the companies requesting adjusters to send them resumes, they are potential employers.
Don't wait for companies to call you, here about a storm, you call them.
It takes work to find work, especially in this industry.
Good Luck
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LAW1526
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2003 : 20:06:34
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| I called around today to find out that there is alot of adjuster working and there are a lot of us on standby. I'm on stand by with Renfroe who is on stand by with the carrier. Two of the other vendors I work for have sent out adjusters, however not as many as they thought they would be sending. A good friend with twenty-five years in this business told me he is also on stand by with the same company. |
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Larry N. Cole
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2003 : 20:41:04
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| I am also an adjuster (abet new) who is not working. I have sent a resume to over 25 companies and visited at least five in person. I have attended all of the cert. courses recommended by each carrier and as of this date have not been called. Now I know how the bridesmaid felt not to be the bride. |
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