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Ghostbuster
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 Posted - 09/27/2003 : 20:57:14
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There it is, chilluns...You wouldn't believe me, now here it is, the unvarnished truth. Without the strength of numbers, without the strength of an organization with bared teeth and the hunger to use them, You, and I do mean YOU, will be at the mercy of the carriers to be their butt-boy.
So...now will all the butt-boys line up over on the left and drop your drawers for the carriers while the stout hearted men line up here on the right and gird your loins for the fight to come. |
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pilot48
USA
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Posted - 09/28/2003 : 02:39:30
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| Seriously........do you people truly think you know what you're talking about, my opinion is that you are sitting around feeling sorry for yourself because you can't keep up with the real adjusters, who know what their doing, and know how to find and secure real work! |
Edited by - Tom Toll on 09/28/2003 09:30:08 |
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Tom Toll
USA
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Posted - 09/28/2003 : 09:28:51
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| Pilot, Janice and I have no problem finding work and staying busy, but the need to help each other through a strong association is present. I don't think anyone is feeling sorry for themselves, they just want the ability to to have some collective reasoning available. What is a real adjuster and why was that sarcasm necessary? |
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pilot48
USA
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Posted - 09/28/2003 : 09:39:29
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| What is a real adjuster? Well, I suspect it's one that doesn't have to even ask the question! The sarcasim? My right to express myself without be regulated. |
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Tom Toll
USA
154 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2003 : 20:12:32
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| I certainly hope your sarcastic tinge is not present when you work a loss. Communication is one of the most important elements in life. Effective communication is one of the stronger tools in becoming a REAL adjuster. I personlly have known what a real adjuster is for the 43 years I have been one. To be sarcastic, most times, divulges the personality of the one being sarcastic. CADO guidlines suggest that that tone of communication should not be used. I suggest you read the gudelines. |
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ChuckDeaton
USA
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Posted - 09/28/2003 : 20:15:36
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| Ahem, Tom |
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pilot48
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2003 : 21:11:45
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Gentlemen, and Ladies. I don't need anyone to tell me how to conduct myself with an insured, much less a total stranger on CADO. Yet, to those that felt my tone was wrong, then put me on your DO NO CALL LIST. This site is meant, for many things, but also to incluse the abilitiy to air problems, if it is now meant to act as a editor of ones true feelings then you guys are going to need more then an association, you're going to need a cyber polieman.
However, if anyone was so offended by my "tone" then not only do I apologize, but I suggest that if my mere comments offened you, then you're truly not an adjuster who has worked some truly TONELESS events.
I'm gone, out of here, you guys have fun fooling yourselves thinking you're making a differance! |
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LAW1526
USA
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Posted - 09/29/2003 : 08:14:02
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Pilot48, if you truly are a seasoned adjuster as you have professed to be, then you have exhibited some truly poor qualities. If the attitude and patients you have expressed here towards others, represents the way you deal with your insured’s, then you must look at the direction of your fingers and where they are pointing regarding your comments about others. If you are producing the same type of investigation on your claims as you have produced in your investigation of the posters on this sight, your lack of a through investigation leaves a lot to be desired. Once again see where your fingers are really pointing regarding who is a real adjusters (I’m I One?).
This sight has been developed for all of us to share our thoughts, our comments and ask questions in our field of expertise. Asking a question or expressing one’s self in a manner that may seem unintelligent to others is the stepping-stone of knowledge to the one who asked when receiving a constructive answer or the sharing of another’s experiences.
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CCarr
Canada
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Posted - 09/29/2003 : 08:33:32
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Mr. Baker, aka pilot48, indeed goodbye to you.
I am just a junior real adjuster compared to Tom's 43 years, having only spent 34 years now directly or indirectly involved in the claims industry. In the past, we have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly communicative styles of problems being aired on CADO. It is indeed the presence and at times the intervention of our moderators that has put us back on track, to the beneficial ideals of CADO.
This site has seen tremendous and positive growth in the past few months, both in members, but more importantly in members who have chosen to communicate and share their thoughts with posts.
It is clear to me that the CADO medium for communication is much more user friendly and conducive to participation, than earlier this year.
I applaud and support all steps taken to maintain and nurture the positive atmosphere that has developed within CADO recently.
CADO may not have made a difference to you, but it is clear in reviewing the various forums and noting the increased and more widespread participation, that CADO is making a positive difference to many members. |
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catmanager
USA
102 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 12:38:05
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| I agree. With a few notable exceptions, the level of professionalism and usefulness shown on this site has greatly improved. Maybe pilot48 was just having a bad day. This is an extremely useful site, and not everyone is always going to agree. It is important to be able to openly discuss things like coverage, organization, etc., without personally attacking the members. Good day, pilot48, don't go away mad, but if you cannot refrain from these type of outbursts, just go away. |
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Ghostbuster
476 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 16:04:47
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I, for one, consider the occasional temper outbursts here to indicative of the normal male ego, and highly representative of each of our inherent temperments. We, as a group, should not be so hasty in our gloating over Pilot48's threat to leave, when in fact, all of us has at one time done the same! Or, in the future, will do the same! Clayton, you have, I have, Kyle has, Tom has, anon, anon. We tend to forget that each of us, regardless of our chronicaled age, is still just a nine year old playing in this, our clubhouse. (Yeah, I know, the women out there think we are closer to acting like three year olds most of the time instead of nine.)
So...when Pilot48 cools down, as the winds of torment subside, his contributions will be back because he knows that here is his home, his clubhouse, just as it is ours.
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Tom Toll
USA
154 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 17:13:20
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| Ghost, well said and very true! |
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jlombardo
USA
212 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 18:50:06
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| Ghost, You never cease to amaze me......Well said...... |
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katadj
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2003 : 22:20:03
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The Imortal bard has been reborn, in the guise of an adjuster.
Beware,ye that fail to heed the words of wisdom and wit, which is proffered.
"Unto thy own self, Be true" as is our dear comrad in arms, GB |
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JWill
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2003 : 00:27:12
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| Why don't we just do the thing we really feel. When I finally had my fill of the vendor crap and low pay. I removed my trusty black book filled with supervisory types from the carriers and began contacting them to inform of my independence, staying true to my title, "Independent Adjuster", it took a little coaxing, nevertheless, I now have plenty of work generated on my own through professionalism on the job. Impress a cat manager, doors will open. I no longer rush around town trying to complete more than I really can properly due to numbers instead of proper investigations per the policy and the fair claims act in most states. I no longer get files back because I paid for damage I found and not what the vendor manager said. I've been noticing a trend of the "cashing out" towards adjusting for storms. How can you really appraise the potential damage when you have to scope 7 - 10 daily just to cover your existence. All it means is re-opens and it difinetely counts against you, or rather the vendor. Remember people, most if not all policies open with the line, "For a premimum, we insure against the risk of direct physical loss". Granted what I've written may not amuse most and will piss the others off. How many claims do you really need to make a living? What kind of claims do you want to adjust? What area of the country do you want to live in? Find these answers to your satisfaction and you won't need the vendors that speak for and against you. I've been on many storms and met many a small adjusting outfits and they had all the claims they wanted. I'll give you a hint, try contacting agents and convince them of your capabilities of fairness, applying losses to coverages, and most importantly, remove the headache calls they get, you'll work year round. |
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