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canduss
USA
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 Posted - 05/27/2003 : 01:42:05
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| There is an increasing need & necessary evil to fullfill the clients need for risk/rope & harness inspections......Don't kid urself...the client will always offer staff rope-n-harness capabilitiy but will mostly produce at prolonged inspections an inferior product only to satisfy a closing ratio. Some vendors reflect a $1,000.00 day rate at 65% = $650.00 to the adjuster which in opinion is a poorly negotiated fee for sevices rendered. I recall a past negotiated fee for rope & harness at $1,154.00 per file at 65% = $750.00 to the adjuster which is appropriate for professional services rendered. Typically a rope-n-harness inspection requires a team effort....please advise of your name & interest so we may be able to provide to clients as a potential rope & harness affiliate......Please feel free to comment...... |
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canduss
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 01:51:38
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| Even if you read this topic.......Please feel free to comment even though you may not be interested or are capable of handling "specialty" rope-n-harness claims..... |
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canduss
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 02:00:37
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| I have numerous vendors always asking for qualified rope-n-harness adjusters........ |
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canduss
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 02:09:54
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| Since this post....I see many drifters review & go on without comment.......Is it possible that anyone who reviews this topic make a comment wether relevant or not.....comments are appreciated..... |
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canduss
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 02:23:48
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| Please don't be afraid.......there is always the promise of quality closing as well as the carriers gratitude of ones concluding a file that no one else would have been able too.... |
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canduss
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 02:31:03
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| Geeeez as many people who have reviewed this topic.........u'd thought someone would have told me where to buy some of those "Cougar Paws"....... |
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canduss
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 02:40:26
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| From this point on.............anyone...who reviews this topic & does not leave a response shall endure the fate of a thousand sins..... |
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Kelley
USA
26 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 06:19:07
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Even Cougar Paws will not work on an 18/12. It is not fair to adjusters on daily rate to have to deal with 12/12 & up for the same fee. Rope & harness does require another person on site...but whoever said this business is fair.
We are in an area where staff adjusters turn back any file where the roof is 10/12 & over or if it is a "true 2 story". If they go out for a re-inspection they refuse to put their "life in danger" for the 10/12 & above. Guess we are more expendiable than I thought. |
One persons dream is another persons nightmare. |
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CatDaddy
USA
310 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 07:36:28
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Craig, its looks like you might be going solo on this deal. Short is working 2-story in Dallas by himself right now. 'Course, most of us that know him arent supprised to hear that. His wallet is bigger than his brain.
I am rope and harness certified but I do it for union wages. Sorry I cant help ya.
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CCarr
Canada
1200 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 07:45:06
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Kelly, are you not the one making yourself expendable? If you perceive or define danger in the roofs you describe, why would you put your "life in danger"?
I suggest there is a significant difference between carrier / vendor demands for "paper / reporting" requirements of a file and any carrier / vendor expectations for adjusters climbing 12/12 or plus roofs. We may whine but endure the former, but your life is at risk for the latter. Is 'that fee' or 'that file', critical to your continued success as an adjuster? Personally I see no problem in that type of file being 'turned back' for professional technical assistance, and there should be no line up behind you for adjusters willing to take your place on the peaks of a 12/12 or plus roof.
Perhaps a reasonable comparison is a building having suffered a fire loss. Once the investigators and adjuster converge, no one would consider entering the fire damaged building unless and until the integrity of the roof, walls, floors and ceilings was clearly known and the 'measure of danger' accepted as less than "life in danger". |
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olderthendirt
USA
370 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 08:36:23
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| When they cart one of us for repairs or disposal there always seems to be another warm body. I don't know about you but I don't bounce as well as I used to, I turn those ugly files back. Its tough to fish from a wheel chair or 6 feet under. When they tell us to be carefull, do they really mean it? |
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ChuckDeaton
USA
373 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 09:21:53
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With the proper equipment, harness, rope, weights, ascenders, ladders vitually anything can be climbed with little or no danger to life and limb. Catalogs and stores, REI is an example, carry this equipment.
use 2 minutes at each inspection to think about saftey |
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tomgriffin56
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 10:44:08
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| But there aren't that many folks running around who actually know how to use that equipment, Chuck. There are probably some ex-military types and possibly some sport climbers, but not many. Plus, most folks don't take that 2 minutes. |
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ChuckDeaton
USA
373 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 15:58:33
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| The equipment is simple, at least what I use is simple, you put weight on the acsender and it grabs the tied off rope and locks up. If it is securely attached to the harness and the harness is securely attached to you, you will find yourself arrested and possibly suspended. Several of our profession have fallen recently. Falling just ain't worth it. |
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katadj
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2003 : 22:30:41
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All of the adjusters that I know personally, who do R&H, do it for 2X the schedule, because it takes twice the time and two people.
Having worked this type of storm several times, with other pro's in the business, especially in NOVA, i can state from experience that it is worth every penny,
Either it is 2x the fee or it is turned back as unsafe and perilous.
"YOU ONLY FALL ONCE'
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rr
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2003 : 15:16:28
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HEY CRAIG
I WILL JOIN YOUR TEAM. YOU GET THE WORK AND I WILL STAY ON THE GROUND AND HOLD THE ROPE FOR A HALF.
RON RESNIK
RR
BE SAFE AND GOOD LUCK |
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