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Catmannn

42 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2003 :  17:29:08  Show Profile
Craig,

To bring this to a head on the next r&h assignment you "accept", take one of the Staff Zone managers, Staff Supervisors, Team Lead or who ever has the pocket rocket to pay YOU what you think it is worth, take he/her out to a risk and strap them up and let them hang it out. Twice times base is not enough.
Good luck on getting one of the pencil pushers out to a large risk.

FYI: Craig just finished an assignment where the average risk's value was 850,000.


Houtz







Edited by - Catmannn on 05/29/2003 17:33:35
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rooferboy

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2003 :  20:45:20  Show Profile
I have worked as a storm salesman for a few big storms and would like to switch sides. I strated out at my families business in Chicago where we thrived on intergity, but was recruited to sell for the big stormers and I do not like it. I had Osha safety classes and am comfortable on alll types of roofs. How can i get on a CAT team. With All the damage I would assume Somebody is looking for a professional with field expirence
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canduss

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2003 :  13:32:33  Show Profile
Thanks for all the interest but with all these comments and reviews, I still don't have a list of potential Rope-n-Harness adjusters to provide to vendors.......Please feel free to provide your names/numbers. Once the client contacts you for an assignment you may feel free to inquire on the appropriate compensation.
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jtrea

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2003 :  22:48:49  Show Profile
I'm currently working high/steep in Burlington, IA. As previously stated with the "proper" equipment it is not a problem. I would be happy to work rope-n-harness as long as the money is right.
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ChuckDeaton

USA
373 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2003 :  08:48:19  Show Profile
Canduss, add my name to the list, Chuck Deaton, 888-980-7599
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katadj

USA
315 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2003 :  16:28:41  Show Profile
Hey I will be the Ground Man for Chuck, as he is Taller and I am Rounder.

Katadj
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Todd_Summers

USA
69 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2003 :  12:11:49  Show Profile
If it takes twice the time and twice the number on a team, it seems to me that the billing should be 4 times the base i.e.:
Base fee $150.00 x 4 = $600.00
Exterior $ 85.00 x 1 = $ 85.00
Interior $100.00 x 1 = $100.00
Cov B $90.00 x 1 = $ 90.00
Steep $30.00 x 0 = $ 0.00
2 Story $30.00 x 1 = $ 30.00
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Total $905.00
$1000.00 or $1200.00 per day x .65 and divided by two ppl. is obviously not enough, when you could be making $1000.00 a day working alone on 4/12 to 9/12's.
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Catmannn

42 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  06:16:21  Show Profile
Wish I had a Rope!!!
Climbing a 11 pitch roof I slipped and started going down the slope on my feet. No landing zone, Thank God that I had put on my pair of Cougar Paws. I was able to catch up and the paws allowed me to stop prior to the eve.
It seems to me that there must be a few different ways to tie off. Some state they do it by themselfs and others talk about two people teams.
Hate walking away from some steep homes. Does anyone know the differnt ways to do this or do any of the venders youal work for provide, free of charge, some schooling?

Houtz
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Catmannn

42 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  06:31:20  Show Profile
C.A.
Getting back to your post, the rope and harness is worth what the carriers are willing to pay to get it done.
Craig once you get a list of 20 mountain men, form a company and call on the carriers and offer your services for steep and
high inspection cat teams. I would start at 3000.00 a day for the team.
Then you could lay back and collect the 35%/40%. hehehe
Sounds Goooooood.

Houtz
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Catmannn

42 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  06:40:37  Show Profile
C.A.
10 teams working for 30 days a year = 900,000.00 billing your side at 30% 270,000.00 looks pretty gooooooood.

Houtz
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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  09:32:41  Show Profile
There are always people who will climb just about anything without proper equipement. Who here hasn't looked down from the peak of a 12 12 and said, now I'm here how do I get down? And as an industry we are allowed to take chances that would not be acceptable in any regulated industry (we only have to worry about the state commisioner). Let's not complain to loud, we could all be wearing ropes, even on the 4 12 roofs we love.
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Todd_Summers

USA
69 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2003 :  09:37:36  Show Profile
Very good point Mark.
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LarryW

USA
126 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2003 :  16:43:35  Show Profile
Craig, Put my name in the hat. Can we R&H 5/12s?

Larry Wright
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canduss

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2003 :  23:55:30  Show Profile
Well.....we've accumulated 3 names (RR,CD,LW)of which 1 wants to be a ground man (I understand RR)& 1 is willing to do 5/12's +......I guess the older we get the steeper these roofs seem to feel.....thanks for the responses and continue to feel free to offer your names if interested in the fabulous field of potential free fall to hang.."Rope-n-Harness"....
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glenn220

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2003 :  17:02:26  Show Profile
Craig, go ahead and add my name to the list. I've been working as a ground guy in Dallas and intend to get the training for the other side of the rope. Finding that training, however, doesn't seem to be all that easy. The independent I'm currently working for offers it at their conference but that is next February. I've also been sniffing around REI to see if they can help. I've worked with two adjusters now and have 300+ claims under my belt on this storm. We had a normal claim load and then would get the re-assigns. To be honest, of those 300+ we may have roped up six times. Seems like we could usually find a way to accomplish the mission without the rope. And tell ya what ... sometimes getting the darned rope over the ridge was the biggest challenge! Or getting it back off, like when the rope looped under a wood shake! Luckily found one of those huge planter hooks in the insured's back yard and was able to snag it from the ladder. There's always a solution!!
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