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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  14:53:22  Show Profile
As many of you know I have always oppossed censorship here, but when those who dedicate a lot of time and knowldge as attacked on a regulr basis, one suspects the same person or persons re appearing under different names. Then I becomes a need to excercise control. ps Justin , you can call me all the names you want, it doesn't bother me.
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Justin

USA
137 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  16:00:01  Show Profile
Olderthandirt. Please tell me where I called you 'names' ? General and spirited discourse yes, names, no. Perhaps I should make this post under 'anger management'
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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  16:30:57  Show Profile
implied names I was reading between the lines LOL
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Ghostbuster

476 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  18:27:16  Show Profile
Now, ya see...we're all having a serious discussion without any rancor. Ain't it great? We're all being such nice little boys and girls.
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ChuckDeaton

USA
373 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:04:32  Show Profile
I, for one, am not offended by anything anyone says. As a result I find my life amazingly stress free. While I do find it necessary to distance myself from my wife's brother-in-law I generally find a valuable kernel in virtually every posthere. Most of the crap comes from jealousy and I am certainly capable of ignoring crap.

I find that very few see life from my view point, that doesn't offend me and I find that I don't share most others viewpoints, but they are entitled to their viewpoints.

As I frequently say, mix it up, rabbit punch him Clayton, get offended JimF, leave and come back under another name, Newt jump in there, Catdaddy and Ghost what are you waiting for. Be brats, but post and post and post and post. Eventually you'll say something that interests or amuses me. Alan, Bill, Cecil, Tom and Janice I want to read what you have to say.
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JimF

USA
1014 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:07:15  Show Profile
Roy, have you given any thought to perhaps abolishing this as a website for adjusting, and perhaps refocusing the entire site around what obviously is THE TOPIC on everyone's mind: ANGER MANAGEMENT?

It seems to be all the rage these days.
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:08:38  Show Profile
I am responding in this thread to a couple of emails I received. I withdrew from posting in the topics related to insurance or claims last week, and gave my reasons in a post that no longer exists due to the thread being removed.

At that time due to the disruptions that were occuring and the personal attacks that were being made, I said that was enough for me; it just wasn't worth it anymore. I had always envisioned my use and participation in CADO as a training and educational tool - both to give and to receive.

I am of the opinion that what occured last week, was not necessary, it could have been prevented by the Administrator or Moderator; but unfortunately it went unchecked for various reasons and got out of hand.

In explaining this to the Administrator, after I had walked away from participating, I received an email from Admin saying the bickering needed to stop. More of a statement than a question, as I see it.

I also pointed out to the Administrator, that the unchecked poor behavior of last week has allowed this web site to sink into a pretty low valley with regards to its usefullness as an educational / training information site.

Let me illustrate this, while at the same time recognizing everyone's freedom to express themselves. However, in that context, if it is to be that anyone can say anything, the goals of CADO should be changed from their printed declarations.

Tonight, as of 9.15 PM ET, 'canduss' was the last one to post on 5 of 8 active topics. At that time if you were to review the various forums you would see the following;

"Almost Anything" > "Topic Removed"
canduss 5 of the 24 total replies

"General Forum" > "Favorite cat"
canduss 3 of the 19 total replies

> "Anger Management ..."
canduss 15 of the 29 total replies

"Coverage Forum"
canduss last poster in 4 of the 5 last threads

By 9.40 PM ET, canduss was the last poster in 5 of the 5 active topics; the comment that follows the time and thread are mine and are an assessment of the post canduss made.
> 19.48 'endorsements' - a vague misleading statement
> 20.04 'topic removed' - an irrelevant useless statement
> 20.20 'Xactimate' - a relevant logical statement
> 20.25 'Sonic Pro' - a vague misleading statement
> 20.32 'Ladder safety' - a statement of no value to the thread

In all of the above 'contributions' by canduss, anyone would have great difficulty in convincing me that 25% made any sense, that 25% was relevant in any way to the thread it is found in; that 25% of it was necessary.

If this is the CADO you the masses want, and a CADO that the owner Roy is happy with, so be it. What I have pointed out seems in stark contrast to what Jim Flynt was trying to bring to you and this site.
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canduss

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:18:53  Show Profile
JiF....Unfortunately, the Topic is within everyones mind....but it is hidden in the depths of our subconscious being....like it or not....we all experience the day to day pressure but it is nice to know that CADO offers a Topic that we may express our feelings.....we have encorporated silent group hugs at the end of our sessions and welcome your participation.........see ya soon
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Dadx9

USA
143 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:22:33  Show Profile
I too have limited my viewing (and posting) during the past couple of years. I found much of the conversations to be demeaning and worthless. But that was only my opinion. Much of what seems to be counter productive to me may be of interest and a release for others. What I choose not to participate in simply doesn't interest me. I do however find the personal attacks unacceptable even in a "free" society. I believe those have not and will never be accepted. I believe topics should remain in their areas. If you make a thread and others wish to participate, great. But I find solicitation for that thread in every discusiion time consuming and obtrusive. But hey, I'm all for stress release and entertainment. I hope we all get too busy to check in daily.

Don
"To be held in the heart of a friend is to be a king."
Bruce Cockburn
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JimF

USA
1014 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:29:31  Show Profile
Clayton, your recent post certainly begs the question:

WHERE are the MODERATORS?

and

WHERE is the enforcement of the CADO USER'S GUIDELINES?


The continuous repeating of this anger management crap non germanely posted under EVERY TOPIC THREAD can only lead to the reader's conclusion that CADO has become a romper room for juvenile delinquency.

And Roy and the Moderators have let and are letting THAT happen!

And yes to comply with Roy's request, I have now sent two emails of protest and complaint to he and the Moderators to bring this disruption to their attention. We'll see what happens if anything!

Edited by - JimF on 02/03/2003 21:35:16
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canduss

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:43:38  Show Profile
Car.......are we all to assume that this site was totally dedicated for your use and judgment of the feasibility related to each thread.....you may be to far removed to realize your full potential....why don't we let the Forum decide what comments are relevant to the Topics...but noticed out of the 5 Topics you evaluated that you've come up with a total of 75% calculation....did you apply some kind of penalty....what would the remaining 25% be good for?...Your interest is appreciated and your dedication to follow/review my comments is commendable....you are hereby formally invited to join us in a silent group hug within the Topic "Anger Management".....if further clarification is needed on the relevance to my comments to any specific Topic, please feel free to e-mail me.......Thanks for your continued cooperation.......
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:44:46  Show Profile
Don, your 'Dadx9' shows up in 'green', do I therefore conclude you are a moderator?

If so, are you expressing a personal opinion or an opinion as a moderator, when you say, ".... I believe topics should remain in their areas .... I find solicitation for that thread in every discussion time consuming and obstrusive ...."?

Perhaps it is a personal opinion - judged by you adding, ".... but hey, I'm all for stress release and entertainment."

Who is administering and moderating this site, within the claimed goals and user guidelines?
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JimF

USA
1014 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  21:49:37  Show Profile
Craig why don't you go stick your head way down in an oversized latrine so you can see what they rest of us are having to look at in reading your posts.

And I'll guarantee that a whole bunch of us will then delight in a much warmer larger group hug and some 'High Fives' to boot.

Are you like this with your insureds when you're adjusting?

Edited by - JimF on 02/03/2003 21:50:31
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canduss

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  22:02:52  Show Profile
Jimmy.......do I detect unproductive comments from a wannabe moderator.....& to answer your question, I empathize with my Insureds as well as angered moderators.....PS this Topic was provided by Admin and we appreciate the oportunity to express ourselves without hostility.....I find my claims production increases dramatically with communication.....Have I invited you to my Topic?
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JimF

USA
1014 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2003 :  22:05:16  Show Profile
Since the Moderators seem to have disappeared (they were logged on until minutes ago), you beg the question:

What point are you trying to make with your continuous posting of the same old same old message about anger management?

Is there any logical reason to all this or are you just victimized by an obsessive-compulsive disorder?

Many readers here would really like to know.

Edited by - JimF on 02/03/2003 22:11:59
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