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TELESCOPIC LADDERS
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swink_d
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06/25/2010 3:31 AM
I always have my telescoping ladder with me. I don't always use it as  I can snatch the 24 foot and have it on the house faster than i can extend the telescoping. 
 
But it comes in very handy if you have to carry your ladder through a house to a 2nd or 3rd story deck  to get on a roof, or get to a roof through a hatch. It also surprises me how many homeowners have attic access but do not even have a step ladder.
 
A telescoping  ladder is just another tool in the truck
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07/10/2010 5:57 PM
I've had my telesteps ladder for going on 6 years and been on hundreds of roofs with it. I wouldn't use anything else. There is nothing better for a double pull. I've tried the little giant and the quad fold wood ladders with other carriers. the only thing they do is send me to the chiro in a hurry. If you take a second and deploy them correctly (as someone said earlier, give them a bounce) they work great. I run around 215lbs and never felt insecure about it. I have a close friend with the same ladder-same result. I did finally have to break down and buy new feet for it cause I wore out the first set.
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07/11/2010 1:03 PM
I have used Telestep for over 10 years and have never had it collapse on me yet! I never put my foot on the first rung without looking up to make certin all the pins are set.

I won't, however, trust any of the ladders made in China. They are not the same quality so if you see one you think is a bargain, ask where it was manufactured.

All telescoping ladders have some flex. Some folks don't feel safe with the flex and then there are some who are just flat too heavy to be using one. Every piece of equipment has it's pros and cons. These work for me but may not for you.
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07/12/2010 10:40 AM
I used to perform siding inspections for which I used a telescopic ladder. It worked fine for that application. For roof climbing, I use the Gorilla (Home Depot knock off of the Little Giant I believe). I wouldn't dare use a telescopic for roof climbing, just doesn't feel safe enough on the telescopic for my 180lb frame.
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08/01/2010 10:57 AM
I've used xtend & climb 15'.5" for three years and it's been great! I'm a little lighte than mostr (170), so I don't have any problems with the bending.
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09/14/2010 2:19 PM


We have the xtend and climb, it is very helpful. It leans on the shoe bag that I have hanging in my storage trailer and keeps it from banging me in the head when I get in it. $350 down the hole. But at the time we thought it was cool.
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04/30/2011 8:10 PM

I'm 260 + and have used my Telesteps 1800W since 2008 doing clean up on Katrina and Wilma. I took it to TX for Ike and used it as often as possible there as well but many roofs required a taller ladder in TX. 

I am still using the same ladder now and it has performed consistently well. I oil it down periodically with WD40 over a long weekend and wipe off the excess oil. The ladder is rated for 300 lbs and holds up well. I am very conscious of making sure the tabs lock in position. The ladder does flex when it is fully extended but it doesn't bother me and 95% of the roofs in Florida are single story leaving plenty of the ladder going up past the eave.

If you by one make sure you maintain it and be sure the tabs lock in position - at least 2 of my adjuster friends use this ladder and one of the is in the 290's.

Good luck with your decision.

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Atfulldraw
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05/17/2011 3:12 AM
telescopic = collapsible

and they do.
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06/12/2011 11:27 AM

For those who don't want to use a larger vehicle but want a larger ladder; I recently saw an adjuster with a ladder attached to a bicycle rack on the back of a small 2 door car that had no luggage rack. I would not put a 30' extension ladder on such an arrangement but it would certainly accomodate my 22' Werner ladder that gets me on almost any roof I need to inspect. 

 

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09/05/2011 10:03 AM

I bought an Extend and Climb model 780P.  It is a type 1A  ladder rated for 300 lbs.  When it is fully extended, it is 12 1/2 ft.  The locking tabs have colors on them so that you can tell if they are set.  If you see red, the tab is not locked.  I weigh 250+ and this ladder does not bow and is very stable.  The main thing that I have to be careful of is keeping my fingers clear of the rungs when collapsing it.  I will not buy a type 1 ladder of any kind, because they are only rated for 225-250 lbs and are usually bouncy or springy when I climb on them.

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ChuckDeaton
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09/10/2011 8:47 AM
This is about making net net money, break something, like a leg, and the money making is over. Break your back and the money making is over for good! Use any ladder you feel safe on.
"Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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CatAdjusterX
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09/10/2011 6:01 PM
Posted By Mark on 12 Jun 2011 11:27 AM

For those who don't want to use a larger vehicle but want a larger ladder; I recently saw an adjuster with a ladder attached to a bicycle rack on the back of a small 2 door car that had no luggage rack. I would not put a 30' extension ladder on such an arrangement but it would certainly accomodate my 22' Werner ladder that gets me on almost any roof I need to inspect. 

 WTF???????

I am trying to visualize the idea you just painted of a 22 ft extension ladder on the back of a coupe with a bike rack? Please can someone anyone tell me this is viable and more importantly a safe way to carry a ladder? My first thoughts are that cops would have a field day with writing a ticket for such a contraption on sight



 

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okclarryd
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09/10/2011 10:07 PM
I worked with a guy that bought a "clip on" luggage rack and carried a 22ft ext ladder on a Avis rent car, an Impala, I think.

The ladder stuck out past the front of the car and almost past the back. He had about 20 bungee cords holding it on.

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CatAdjusterX
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09/11/2011 10:46 PM
Posted By Carl on 05 Sep 2011 10:03 AM

I bought an Extend and Climb model 780P.  It is a type 1A  ladder rated for 300 lbs.  When it is fully extended, it is 12 1/2 ft.  The locking tabs have colors on them so that you can tell if they are set.  If you see red, the tab is not locked.  I weigh 250+ and this ladder does not bow and is very stable.  The main thing that I have to be careful of is keeping my fingers clear of the rungs when collapsing it.  I will not buy a type 1 ladder of any kind, because they are only rated for 225-250 lbs and are usually bouncy or springy when I climb on them.

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Carl,

On October 26th 2009, I tipped a 24 ft. extension ladder and I broke my leg(the jagged edge of the spiral break ripped apart my calf muscle and tore through my skin) I broke my pelvis, 4 ribs separated at the sternum(the ribs were broken from a public adjuster trying to give me CPR, it was later determined that CPR was not necessary and actually made my condition worse,however I have nothing but love for that PA because he was scared, crying and was trying to help me). I broke my jaw and had my jaw wired shut for almost 3 weeks or so(some say that was a good thing :-) ) I also fractured my skull. I had two surgeries on my leg and I had another surgery in March of 2010 as a blood clot formed under the fracture line of my skull. I was in a wheelchair for about 4 months or so and to this day, I walk with a cane(well I am supposed to anyway)
On April 23rd, 2011 Brian Jones had a 22 ft. extension ladder on a multi story risk with a one story detached garage. The garage was a simple 4/12 pitch. The insured told Brian there is no need to move your extension ladder because the insured had set up a 11 ft ladder or something close to that. Brian zipped up the ladder with the insured bracing the ladder because the ladder was set up on a smooth concrete patio and was also wet and did his thing with the garage roof . He went to the ladder and didn't see the insured around, he put one foot on the ladder and it felt secure and just as he put his full weight and his other foot on the ladder, it slid out from under him. As he layed there he knew something was wrong because he couldn't feel anything from his waist down and was terrified he was paralyzed. Fairly quickly he felt the sensation of his pants and shoes getting tighter and tighter around his legs and feet and he felt as he began to fall unconscious and his vision got darker and darker and then.....nothing

Brian Jones not only broke both legs and both ankles and both feet, he destroyed his legs from the knees down and destroyed the sockets where the ankles meet the feet. Brian is married with 6 beautiful children and as many of married adjusters do, Summer(Brian's wife)  wrote the XM8 estimates and Brian did the inspections. Unfortunately as the case is, many of us adjusters being self employed means that we do NOT have access to health care unless we literally have the ability to pay a monthly premium in excess of $1,000.00 +. My accident cost more than 500k from all the surgeries, hospitalization etc.... That would have financially destroyed me and my precious babies(Jordan/Mckenna) and would have BK'd our lives. My saving grace was that I am blessed to have FREE LIFETIME healthcare from being a disabled Veteran  from being wounded during the first Gulf war.  

Carl my friend, the whole point to my post is to extoll the virtue of ladder safety as what we do is inherently dangerous.A momentary slip up or a second of throwing common sense to the wind on a ladder can change and END our lives and our families lives.........forever!! I am concerned about a few things in your post. You are running with a collapsible ladder when fully extended equals 12 1/2 ft. which translates to a 9 ft. max reach for the user. You state it's max load is 300 lbs and that you are 250+. With your tool belt and equipment and your clothes, that can increase your weight by 5 to 10 lbs. That can bring the ladder system closer to it's max weight limit. You state that the ladder is rigid and does NOT flex, whilst that seems reassuring, that your ladder does NOT flex makes that ladder extremely vulnerable to catastrophic failure. Remember whilst your ladder system is rated to 300 lbs, that limit is based upon STATIC weight (the weight is placed gradually up to the limits of it's rating.) When a person gets on a ladder and maybe hops on the ladder or makes a quick move, your 250 or 270 lbs can generate well over 300/400+ of force that exceeds the safety limits.

It's like Jet Aircraft wings, flying through turbulence can be very stressing to those who don't fly alot because they see the wings bouncing and flexing up and down. Those wings are extremely strong and they are designed to flex. If those wings are rigid, they would be much more susceptible to catastrophic failure.

So Carl,(AND ALL ADJUSTERS NEW AND OLD, ROOKIE AND VETERAN PLEASE REMEMBER THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE WITH YOU GUYS/GALS ALL OF YOU GUYS/GALS IN IT) PLEASE get yourself a longer heavier weight limit, fiberglass( No Aluminum as during hurricanes tornadoes, you are dealing with downed power lines) extension ladder(20 to 24 ft) and a 6 to 8 ft. fiberglass A frame ladder. No matter the expense, LET'S ALL BE SAFE !!!!

 

 

Robby Robinson

American Veteran CAT Services

   
 

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