I am a contractor that uses Xactimate for our estimates. A recent job has an adjuster who uses powerclaim. This is for a hail damaged roof. One building has dormers, flashings, etc. The other has none, Just a straight shot for shingling. Both are lumped into one price per square using powerclaim. I feel this is incorrect. Using Xactimate on the same house, the price difference is almost $6000. I really feel something needs to be done about this powerclaim software lumping everything into one category. Have any of you had problems with this?

Joe Woolhouse its not a PowerClaim problem. Power Claim can do the same thing as xmate. Why dont you sent  me all the scopes and measurements and I will print out the loss on Power Claim for the adjusting community to see that this is a malicious lie, probably by a mold contractor. NO software makes the author competant. If you are not a liar I will tell  all readers of CADO

There can be many reasons.
1) What data base is used for each system, one could be texas and one alaska, compare apples tp apples.
2) Anyone can make a mistake, contractor, adjuster, whomever.
3) Level of experience of the adjuster and contractor.

As Ray stated, send him the pix, masurements and ibfo and you will get a CORRECT answer.

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some one is off about 30 squares and thats about on small-med house. I would like for some of you folks sitting home watching the weather channel to join me in this skirmish and lets get one of each program, xware, powerclaim, simsol, IC and the new Canada program and really see any bottom line change on the TOTAL SQUARES was the complaint.

NO O&P, Use the roofers scope and line items, use the Powerclaim scope and line items. Now if a line item is on one and not another the diagram and photos will be the tie breaker. OK Mr. Woolhouse please put up , OR write a public notice to members of the professional roofers of America, who you insulted with your slander statement.

Just sell  your case right here. We need the zip code and a few photos to describe the roof and the diagram.

No one else here has your diagram/scope to give an opionion.  Ray says there is a scope discepancy, but how are we to know?  On your original post it was a $600 difference, and now it's much higher.  But initially it was just dormers & flashings, now it's a different story.   Can we get the straight skinny, and then maybe be able to give you a more educated opinion?  I haven't used Power Claim before, so there could be a big difference in what is considered "included operations/materials" from one estimating program to another.    Afterall, depending on the degree of damage, chimney flashings are rarely replaced on hail losses and the drip edges/valleys are hit & miss too when it comes to actual replacement.   That is...if there is actually valley metal.  I've seen estimates that included R&R valley metal when the existing roof had a California weave instead of metal valleys.  

Joe I know all the people who answered your question. give the zip code, show a roof sketch with measurements and a front photo.  I thought I read a differance of $6,000  or I would not have responded. A $600. differance between adjuster and roofer should never get this far up the road. You two get your heads into this and get it settled. I was just defending Power Claim and that was my intent. I do not show up anyone.

Joe I know all the people who answered your question. give the zip code, show a roof sketch with measurements and a front photo.  I thought I read a differance of $6,000  or I would not have responded. A $600. differance between adjuster and roofer should never get this far up the road. You two get your heads into this and get it settled. I was just defending Power Claim and that was my intent. I do not show up anyone.

Lesson to Joe Woolhouse. Always show the adjuster the roof diagram with measurements. Now a new topic many insurance campanys will except a complete roof job on a composition shingle as. R & R all shingles with LKQ. Many want a lower number on TO. The only add ons are roof turbines, power vent covers, BROKEN skylights, vent caps. NO PLUMBING JACKS OR CHIMNEY FLASHING. no new felt(unless), ridge vent(unless) metal edge its all in the replace rate.

Public adjusters and roofers like your bunch statred all this add on crap, and xmate bought the whole package and some insurance companys want to pay as much as they can as well as the working adjusters on commission. But the largrest storm chaser roofers in the world will take an exactimate estimate with the diagram on the sheet without any O & P all day long. For that matter any estimate

You do not want to hear the next paragraph and I will not print it.

Joe, if you took my words as unkind I apologize.  Anyone that knows me, or has read my posts on this site knows otherwise....although I can lean toward the warped side from time to time just for the sake of keeping a topic alive.  If I misread your initial post, OK.  But I'm not so sure, as pointed out by another poster.  My old eyes may play tricks on me, but not my memory to the best I can recall.