John Postava SIMSOL.com
 Posts:90


 | | 08/23/2007 8:44 AM |
| I wanted to poll the CADO adjuster who are required to use Xact w/Sketch as to how they like/dislike it. There is not much of a chance that any other vendor software will create something like it due to the patent issue X has on the feature. The patent may not be enforceable but it would take 7-figures in legal fees to prove it! Does Sketch speed up the estimating process? Does Sketch make your estimates more accurate? Responders may post here or email me directly. Thanks for your replies in advance... | | | |
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Steve Ebner Moderator Lake Ariel, PA
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 | | 08/23/2007 10:04 AM |
| John, Since I am very familiar with your program, but have been required to use Xactimate 24 on my last assignment, let me add my two cents. In my opinion, Xactimate's sketch does speed up the preparation of an Xactimate estimate most of the time. It works just nifty as long as you don't try to do the diagram in a manner that sketch won't allow. In a complete floorplan, for instance, the rooms need to be added in the proper order or it just won't let you put some rooms in. I find sketch particularly unwieldy, however, for preparing roof diagrams. The program seems to think it knows what the roof looks like better than I do. It is just annoying for roof diagrams on complex roofs. On a couple of roofs I just ignored sketch, hand drew the roof diagram and scanned it into my report. Simsol's CAD is much more user friendly for roof diagrams. Saying that sketch speeds up an Xactimate estimate, however, doesn't change the fact that I can complete an entire claim file in about 60% of the time by using Simsol. As far as accuracy, it is all a matter of how accurately one uses sketch. It sometimes takes a little tweaking to get the sketch reflect the dimesions I want it to reflect. Since I don't settle for inaccuracy, this sometimes slows down the process while I adjust the sketch until it's right. | | Steve Ebner
"With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962) | |
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Tim Johnson
Hot Springs, Arkansas
 Posts:79

 | | 08/23/2007 1:44 PM |
| John,
I have Xmate and Simsol. One client demands Xmate. Most all of the time I write my sheets in Simsol and do the diagram in Sketch, write it to pdf and insert it into the Simsol appraisal. I have one property adjuster that can make sketch walk and talk on the most complex cut up roofs. The casualty adjusters use the Simsol diagram feature to do all their scene diagrams, mount and label the photos, etc. It makes a good looking finished product.
TJ | | Tim Johnson | |
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jasper seale Adjuster
 Posts:19

 | | 08/25/2007 1:55 PM |
| With multi- rooms damaged on the interior, it works pretty good for me, and i am by no means a "pro" with sketch. Looks good and not to hard to use--you can click on the 3-d button and see if the layout you made is the same as the dwelling really is---peaked ceilings, vaulted ceilings--missing walls, windows and doors etc. It helps speed production with the interior diagram//floor plan for sure. But on roofs---i guess i should go to a class or something, as i find that when "it" does the math--it gets close--but is off by a little every time. Basic gables, hips etc are easy enough to draw, but again the math allways off by a little. On any real complex roof, i also have to draw it and scan it to. | | | |
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joseph lombardo jr. Adjuster Clearwater, Florida
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 | | 08/25/2007 8:26 PM |
| John, I use sketch on all my property losses ..........it works well ax long as one realizes that it has some limits. I prefer 2002 over 24 and 25 as the sketch is very stable and works well.....2002 lacks some of the whistle and bells of 24 or 25, by I like the control over the program and some of the parameters. Best regards, Joe Lombardo Jr.
PS......Steve, I generally have no problem with the sketching of roofs.....Inorder to check it and see if it represents what I am trying to sketch, I use the 3D button...really helps. | | | |
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John Postava SIMSOL.com
 Posts:90


 | | 08/27/2007 10:47 AM |
| Thanks for the comments. From what was posted here and from the private emails I received adjusters are split 50/50 as far as liking or disliking the Sketch drawing tool. Accurate drawings are always a great way to document a file and help claim examiners to see the loss from a visual perspective. | | | |
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Kim Smallwood CIC Adjuster SW Missouri
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 | | 08/27/2007 9:00 PM |
| Sketch does speed up the estimate but only if you really know how to do it. A storm is not the place to learn sketch or be told you have to use it. I've found that I can sketch about 90% of my roofs with extreme accuracy, even the newer multi-pitch cut-up roofs. I tend to measure more details on the roof though to make sure my sketch is as accurate as possible. Interiors are even easier to do. Once everything is drawn out, the estimate is only a few clicks away with the correct macros. The only thing I do not like about Sketch is that it prints the diagram too small on the page and multiple measurements in an area can print on top of each other or are not readable. I consider myself proficient in X8 as well as Simsol having used both for several years and both are up and running on my computer now as well as Integra. Both get me to the same point and usually are pretty close to each other in final figures. Simsol is just easier to learn and use without a great deal of training and experience. The Simsol diagrams are simple and to the point which is all most carriers and Insureds really care about. The behemoth of an estimate and sketch in X8 appeals to carriers who what to be able to audit every line item electronically in an estimate. However, in the end, a good qualified adjuster will get the work done in either program correctly and the claim can be closed. This all said, I don't choose my software, the carrier does. In order to get work we have to be be able to use X8 proficiently since it is what is required from most wind/hail carriers at this point. For flood work I prefer Simsol because it integrates the flood forms with no additional work required. KLS | | | |
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Larry Hardin Adjuster Oklahoma City, OK
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 | | 08/27/2007 9:29 PM |
| I've been writing many fire estimates using sketch and, once the floorplan is done, the estimate just flies. I am having the occasional brain-freeze trying to fit the rooms together but I think it's just 'cause I'm old and feeble and forgetful and ......................
My current employer does not understand the complexity of a good fire estimate.
The one I finished today was 31 pages and was over $80K.
As they say (whoever "they" are) Practice Makes Perfet
Obviously, I need some more practice | | Larry D Hardin | |
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Ryan S
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 | | 08/29/2007 8:59 PM |
| It's ok for showing a floorplan, but I hate to estimate from the sketch. I find it much easier to dimension and just go from there. But I have always hated sketch. I think it comes with the traits of being left handed. Simsol sketch is great for cut up roofs. You can just draw, label, etc without any trouble.
X sketch for cut up roofs is a nightmare. I wish x had a sketch that could be used for visual purposes only with a freehand type feature.
Trying to put counters, kitchen islands, and odd offsets into x-sketch is more trouble than it's worth. I go much faster and more accurate when I can just add the offset, closet, etc as a subroom and be done. | | | |
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Gale Hawkins PowerClaim.com
 Posts:335

 | | 08/30/2007 2:17 AM |
| http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/printthread.php?t=24952 While this contractor forum is someone dated it does talk about Sketch in Xactimate from the angle of a contractor. Our contractor uses keep giving us feature request as we work to a version that is friendlier to contractors since they have some needs that are different from adjusters. Adjusters’ estimates errors come out of the carriers’ pockets and the contractors errors come out of their pockets is one big difference that we see and hear. | | | |
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