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E BrooksUser is Offline

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10/17/2006 10:50 PM  

You may be familiar with the Claims Pages--very useful, have tons of documents/forms, lots of jobs posted, etc.

A funny thing about them is they have a list of 511 forbidden words. If you type one of these words in a post, it will come out as X's.

For example, I wrote a post and used the word "dope" at one point meaning "information"--what's the dope? or something like that.

I was surprised to see it reduced to "xxxx". Obviously impeded communication.

I wrote the editor, one Kay, who told me about the 511 forbidden words.

He justified the prohibition, saying that "dope" could be used to call somebody a dope, and it could also be used to refer to drug use.

I will leave it to you to decide whether this site and its editor are on the ball or are out of control puritans.

If you would like to reply to this post, I will use your input in further communications with Kay. Thanks.

E Brooks

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10/18/2006 2:58 AM  
You probably should have called it "the skinny", and not been censored...but would then have had the AAFTP (American Assoc for Thin People) calling you out.
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10/18/2006 2:17 PM  
I think even this sight uses some censorship. In the chatroom, when talking about a restaurant in Mobile, Al. my post was not allowed. I thought it was silly at the time, but I understand that one person using inappropriate language can ruin it for everyone else. Any one who visits the weather underground forum can see that some folks need to be censored. I think its a small price to have to say "information", or type the restaurant name as "DickRussels". It is frustrating some times, but not a huge problem in the grand scheme.

I know the voices aren't real, but sometimes they're right!
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10/22/2006 7:59 AM  
Personally, I think Language that is fitted for public venue, should be censored. I mean there are ways to get a point across, and make little hints of sexuality, or jokes and stuff like that without actually utilizing the "Forbidden" words. As Far As I am Concerned (And FAR FROM BEING PERFECT)!

I mean we all at some point or another, and likely moreso me than most, utilize these forbidden words, And I for ONE WILL Watch whast I say, because it just doesnt sound good....... And realizing it, is a atart and a step in the right direction!

I mean think About it It does sound very Unprofessional, SO I think The Forbidden words area good thing! Just my opinion : )

R. Estes
Mike KunzeUser is Offline

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10/23/2006 1:29 AM  

Mr Brooks:

It seems like the censorship on this site might be a little behind, so would you please make us abreast of the 511 forbidden words, so that we can have half a chance of not offending anyone?  I don't know butt that few on this site that can spell 511 friggin words...oops, is that one of them again?  George Carlin only came up with seven!!  I probably used 5 right here if anyone wanted to take them out of context.

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10/23/2006 10:16 AM  
It would be at least entertaining to see the list. But I haven't seen it--as far as I know they just pop up one at a time when you inadvertently use the forbidden word and you get a string of "x's" instead of the word.

For example, I don't know if the word "screw" is on the list. If it were, that could work a real impediment to communication since no one would be able to fully discuss mechanical topics involving screws. The way out would I suppose be to do a work-around such as "inclined plane thing in a circle that penetrates."

In reality I have used such solutions as (in this example) "sc*ew". The authors or their program are/is not clever enough to foil these tactics.

I have let Mr. McKay of the ClaimsPages know what I think about his list, and I don't think he wants to hear any more from me about it.

I think part of McKay's reluctance to join in the fun of ridiculing his list is that he and some others sat around a table and created it. If the list is any indication, this was/is a pretty buttoned-down group.

So the list is a glimpse into the thoughts of the persons who control the site.

The ClaimsPages site has a direct contact e mail feature to contact McKay. Maybe he would give you the list? Then you could compare it to the list on this site. Which I assume there is?
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10/23/2006 10:42 AM  

As an "Admin" on another site, I can tell that part of the set-up is an option to have certain words "flagged" as 'forbidden'. Those are purely at the discretion of the Admin and, like EBrooks mentions, may provide a glimpse into the the thoughts of the person controlling the site or maybe just a sign of tact or respect for potential visitors.

Kevin Hromas

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I have often wondered if a more appropriate censorship should be of people who claim to be 'movers and shakers' in this industry yet seem to have a problem writing a grammatically correct sentence. (Or THEY insert CapitaliZations RANdomly tHroughOUt thIER SENtence StrUcture.) They often produce more harm for our industry than someone who lets a little 'color' slip into their posts.

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08/02/2007 4:44 PM  
Posted By Mike Kunze on 10/18/2006 2:58 AM
You probably should have called it "the skinny", and not been censored...but would then have had the AAFTP (American Assoc for Thin People) calling you out.



they are called corporate nazis my brother

Larry HardinUser is Offline
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08/04/2007 3:31 PM  
Just think about censorship. Really think about it.


Just don't say anything about it.


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Michael HamiltonUser is Offline

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11/24/2007 5:12 PM  
Posted By Kevin Hromas on 10/23/2006 10:42 AM

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Kevin Hromas

(Added by edit)

I have often wondered if a more appropriate censorship should be of people who claim to be 'movers and shakers' in this industry yet seem to have a problem writing a grammatically correct sentence. (Or THEY insert CapitaliZations RANdomly tHroughOUt thIER SENtence StrUcture.) They often produce more harm for our industry than someone who lets a little 'color' slip into their posts.


Kevin,

At the risk of having all of my posts scrutinized for the many typos I can whack out on a keyboard, I could not let this one get away. I merely point this out, because I agree with you on the grammar thing. Since I know that you are one who likes to use and read correct grammar, I should point out that you have a plural pronoun referring to a singular person.  This is as bad as ending a sentence with "at".


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