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pat Not givenUser is Offline

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09/22/2007 10:03 PM  

Just wondering if anyone has any feedback for me on this?

I have a 25 year old felony theft conviction that was for a few hand tools -- shouldnt have been close to a conviction but had court appointed attorney at the age of 18!   Well anyway, wondering if I could get the Texas adjuster license with such a record?  I know I can explain it all when I submit the app but wondering if anyone on here has been denied for same reason?

Think my 20 years in management which included carrying keys and being issued alarm passes for several multi-million dollar retails stores during my career would be convincing enough for the state of TExas 

I would appreciate your feedback.

GOD BLESS

Deborah LeonardUser is Offline

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09/22/2007 10:10 PM  

In all honesty, I really do not know.  However, I do know that you will never succeed if you don't try. 

Jack FrenchUser is Offline

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09/22/2007 11:31 PM  
TDI will have you get some references and a letter from the local Sheriff. You should be able to get your license. but it will take an effort and some time.
stephanie wellsUser is Offline

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09/23/2007 12:31 AM  

I'm not sure if they will give you a license or not. I know that on the application I read that you could not have ANY felonies.

I used to be a fraud investigator and something you said struck a chord with me. So you think it's not a big deal to steal? "Just a couple of hand tools"?

As an Adjuster you are required to have ethics. Does this mean you wouldn't have a problem with "taking just a few hundred dollars"? At what point do you draw the line? At what point is it not ok to steal since you think the power tools are no big deal?

Randy AdairUser is Offline

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09/23/2007 1:16 AM  

 

ooops!

 

joseph lombardo jr.User is Offline
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09/23/2007 7:13 AM  

Pat,
I am with Deborah.....Take the time and drive to the Insurance Commissioners office and discuss it with them.....then you will know first hand.......and I think that the effort put forth to physically go there will speak volumes for you....

Stephanie......if you are going to quote someone, be accurrate...nowhere in Pat's post does he or she say "Just a few hand tools"........I think that your years as a fraud investigator has tainted your outlook...one indiscretion does not mean that this person has no morale or ethical fiber......his crime was against property and he was young.........

Stephanie....have you ever taken an other than honest or exact deduction on your income tax??? Intentional sped when no cop was around??? Run a red light???Got behind the wheel after a couple of drinks and drove home justifying that you were okay and only a mile from home????

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone........

Stephanie, we are adjusters, and what we do is adjust claims......that's it......

Just my .02

Pat--you go for it....

Joe L.

Jim GaryUser is Offline
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09/23/2007 11:12 AM  
Lets not through Pat under the bus yet. I also made a gigantically stupid move when I was about 16. No conviction, but I was sentenced to many months of "heck" from my father. A sentence from a judge would have been much easier to take. Pat, just be sure to fully disclose your situation, and also realize that a vendor may do a background check on you.

JWG

I know the voices aren't real, but sometimes they're right!
Ray SmithUser is Offline

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09/23/2007 11:31 AM  

I was originally denied my Texas Adjuster's license just because of a Public Intoxication charge when I was 18. I thought that this was outrageous as I was allowed to hold a Peace Officer License in the State of Texas but not an Adjusting license. Off of the top of my head the reason described was "a moral turpitude violation" and also "failure to disclose" which was bogus as I had sent them a certified copy of my disposition. There was and is no reason for my denial so I appealed and was then issued my license. However I feel that, based on the below referenced material, there is no reason that the Texas Department of Insurance would ever issue a license to anyone convicted of a felony let alone any conviction of a theft.

§ 4005.101. GROUNDS FOR LICENSE DENIAL OR DISCIPLINARY
ACTION.
(b) The department may deny a license application or
discipline a license holder under this subchapter if the department
determines that the applicant or license holder, individually or
through an officer, director, or shareholder:
(5) has engaged in fraudulent or dishonest acts or
practices;
(8) has been convicted of a felony;

Tom TollUser is Offline
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09/23/2007 12:31 PM  

Only TDI can answer Pat's question. My advice would be to be honest and make the trip to TDI to discuss this with them. We have all made mistakes in our younger years and should not have to pay for them the rest of our lives. People change with maturity and time and should they be penalized for mistakes made in their younger years, no. Take many references with you and recommendations from present and past employers.

Joe Lombardo had the correct answer. When I was 16, I was stopped while driving with a friend and had consumed one beer. The Chief was a cousin of mine and did the right thing. He parked Dads truck, took me to jail, and called my parents. They also did the right thing, they left me in jail over the week end. As a result of that punishment, I never became a heavy drinker and to this day drink very, very little. Should I be ostrasized for being stupid at age 16, of course not. My punishment was digging out and clearing sewer ditches in the small town we lived in. 60 hours of this made a better person on me, of course at the time I thought my parents were horrible to do this to their son. It was a life learning experience.


Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
Ray SmithUser is Offline

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09/23/2007 12:57 PM  
I can agree with all Tom on being stupid as a youth, however unless Pat gets his conviction expunged or a pardon I just see no exceptions being allowed under 4005.101.(b).(8). He might have better luck going for the expunge, although it might cost him a pretty penny.

I am making no judgments about Pat or any others convicted of a felony. I too as many others have had my share of youthful idiotic transgressions.
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