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R .D. Hood Founding Member Adjuster New Hope, Pennsylvania
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 | | 07/27/2007 1:24 PM |
| Here is the link to the National Underwriters Take If this passes, woe to this business as the Feds will now be in the Insurance Business. | | "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein" | |
| Steve Beaumont Founding Member Adjuster Homeless Gypsy's-Fulltime RV travelers
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 | | R .D. Hood Founding Member Adjuster New Hope, Pennsylvania
 Posts:160


 | | 07/27/2007 9:47 PM |
| Insurers Balk as House Panel Votes to Add Wind Coverage to Flood ProgramJuly 27, 2007 Private insurance companies are balking at a decision by a key House panel to expand the federal flood insurance program to include wind coverage. The House Financial Services Committee voted yesterday to add wind coverage to the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP). "We continue to believe that adding wind coverage to the NFIP is not the right solution," commented American Insurance Association (AIA) President Marc Racicot. AIA commissioned a study by Towers Perrin showing that adding wind could taxpayers as much as $100 billion to $200 billion if the federal government began displacing the private market by providing wind coverage. At recent hearing, AIA was joined by other insurer groups in opposing the expansion. They included the Property Casualty Insurers of America and the Reinsurance Association of America. PCI told lawmakers that, while the inclusion of wind coverage within the federal program is well-intentioned, it may produce unintended negative consequences for millions of American insurance consumers. "Including wind coverage within the NFIP will create artificial subsidies, thereby essentially raising rates for consumers in inland parts of the country who are not subject to the same kind of wind-damage risks faced by policyholders on the coasts," said Ben McKay, PCI's senior vice president, federal government affairs. "It is hard to believe that Congress wants to give more responsibility to a failed government program. I wouldn't invest in a company that had inadequate cash flow and $17.5 billion of debt." According to PCI, the combination of homeowners' insurance coverage, state wind pools and flood coverage available through the NFIP already provide consumers protection from wind and water damage. Moreover, the current system provides consumers the opportunity to purchase coverage at a price that reflects the risk based on the location of the property and the likelihood of a loss. "State residual market mechanisms provide wind coverage where there is no market, and private insurers provide wind coverage where there is a market," McKay said. "The Taylor bill simply creates a federal government fund that will compete with existing state funds and potentially with the private sector." Franklin W. Nutter, president of the Reinsurance Association of America (RAA), also argued that the expansion provision was unnecessary because private sector insurers, reinsurers, capital market participants, and residual market programs already provide wind coverage. In a letter sent to Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., and Ranking Member Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., of the House Financial Services Committee, Nutter said that it "fundamentally alters who bears the risk of loss from wind. Instead of spreading this risk throughout the private worldwide insurance marketplace, this legislation puts the entire burden of deficits on the U.S. taxpayer. This fundamental shift is not needed. There is adequate wind capacity being provided by direct insurers and/or state residual markets, and there is a very robust global private reinsurance market for wind to help insurers manage their risk of loss." Insurers had hoped lawmakers would have instead pursued a proposed six-month study by the Government Accountability Office, which they said would have provided an analysis of adding wind coverage to the NFIP and provided a better understanding of the real cost of adding wind coverage. The measure approved by the House Financial Services Committee is H.R. 3121, the "Flood Insurance Reform and Modernization Act of 2007," which also includes other reforms to the NFIP that insurers support. Find this article at: | | "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein" | |
| R .D. Hood Founding Member Adjuster New Hope, Pennsylvania
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 | | 07/27/2007 9:50 PM |
| "The House Financial Services Committee voted 38-29 to approve legislation yesterday that would expand the National Flood Insurance Program to offer wind damage coverage. This fall, the legislation, HR 3121, will move to the House floor for action. It combines previously introduced flood reforms designed to increase the number of consumers in the program and reduce subsidies for some properties with a bill to add the wind coverage option. The measure requiring windstorm insurance to be provided by the flood program was introduced earlier this year by Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss. In voting yesterday, committee members split largely along party lines. Republican opposition to the bill mainly concerned inclusion of the wind coverage provision, which they argued would increase taxpayer liability for a program already deeply in debt. Democrats countered by noting a provision in the bill requiring premiums for wind coverage to be actuarially sound. “The answer to ‘how much is the bill going to cost?’ is ‘nothing,’” said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the chairman of the committee. Republicans responded that it is unlikely the actuarial soundness called for will survive political pressure to lower premiums. “We all know our constituents will be calling us from day one begging for lower rates and higher coverage,” said Rep. Tom Feeny, R-Fla. Later in the hearing, Rep. Feeny said the committee would be “usurping” the private market if the wind coverage provision were passed, and pointed to the experience of the Florida market since the state established its own Joint Underwriting Authority as insurer of last resort. That entity, now known as Citizens Property Insurance Corp., is currently the largest insurer for wind coverage in the state, he said. Inevitably, Rep. Feeny argued, the question of offering lower rates arises, and “no legislator in his right mind would vote against subsidizing,” he said. “It’s happened in Florida, and we’re going to do it again if we adopt this bill.” Rep. Frank, however, said that opponents would not have to look far to see a difference in this particular legislation. “I would give one piece of evidence that Congress can say ‘no,’” he said, “and that’s the rest of this bill.” Other provisions in the bill would require the Federal Emergency Management Agency to revise the nation’s flood maps by 2010 and phase out subsidies for structures built before the NFIP was established that are not primary residences. Insurance groups voiced opposition to the wind coverage provision, echoing many of the same concerns voiced by members of the panel. “Adding wind coverage to the National Flood Insurance Program would create artificial subsidies, which would essentially raise rates for consumers in noncoastal areas…” said Cliston Brown, federal affairs director for the Property and Casualty Insurers Association of America (PCI). Mr. Brown noted that “the NFIP is already $17.5 billion in debt, so adding further exposure to the program is not a good idea. Furthermore, state residual market mechanisms provide wind coverage where there is no market, and private insurers provide wind coverage where there is a market.” American Insurance Association President Marc Racicot said of the passage by the committee that “we continue to believe this is not the right solution,” noting a Towers-Perrin study commissioned by the group that the impact on taxpayers could be as high as $200 billion. That study, according to Rep. Taylor, is based on false assumptions. Mr. Racicot said AIA had hoped the committee would have chosen to pursue a proposed six-month study by the Government Accountability Office, “which would have provided in-depth analysis of adding wind coverage to the NFIP and provided a better understanding of the real cost of adding wind coverage.” Rep. Frank said during the markup that the bill will not go to the House floor before lawmakers leave for their August recess, and may not be acted on until October." BY MATT BRADY
NU Online News Service, July 27, 9:03 a.m. EDT
The above is from this article >>>> | | "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein" | |
| R .D. Hood Founding Member Adjuster New Hope, Pennsylvania
 Posts:160


 | | 07/27/2007 9:52 PM |
| Steve et al: Have copied and pasted the info which was on the link. You do have to subscribe to get the daily information. Im on so many subscriptions i could make a house payment, LOL | | "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein" | |
| Roy Cupps CatAdjuster.org Texarkana, TX
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 | | 09/13/2007 10:48 AM |
| "Republican nominee for Mississippi insurance commissioner, Sen. Mike Chaney, R-Vicksburg, formally endorsed U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor's, R-Miss., Multiple Peril Insurance Act (H.R.920). The MPIA would allow property owners to purchase wind and flood coverage in a single policy. read more of the insurancejournal.com article >> http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2007/09/13/83437.htm There has not been any action on this bill since February 2007 and the last report I saw indicated that the bill was dead in the water. | | Adjuster Directory | The Licensing Page | CADO Storm Page | |
| Tom Toll Life Member Moderator
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 | | 09/13/2007 11:46 AM |
| Lets hope the bill stay dead in the water. Can you imagine the paperwork that would be required for both flood and wind claims. I get nauseaous just thinking about it. | | Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. | |
| Steve Beaumont Founding Member Adjuster Homeless Gypsy's-Fulltime RV travelers
 Posts:225

 | | 10/17/2007 3:39 PM |
| Here is the latest in the Insurance Journal on the senate version of the bill:
National News Senate Flood Insurance Bill Keeps Current Limits, Omits Wind Coverage October 17, 2007
Send Feedback E-mail this Article Print this Article Article Reprints The U.S. Senate Banking Committee has approved legislation to reform the National Flood Insurance Program. The Flood Insurance Reform and Modernization Act of 2007 will now move to the floor of the full Senate.
The U.S. House of Representatives passed a similar measure last month, but while both the House and Senate versions reauthorize the NFIP through 2013, the Senate version veers from the House bill by not increasing maximum coverage limits and leaving out optional coverages, including business interruption coverage and additional living expenses.
The Senate version also differs from the House bill in that it does not include optional federal wind coverage, something insurers have said would result in a dramatic expansion of the NFIP – with the potential for huge deficits – and a fundamental realignment of both the NFIP and the private wind insurance market.
The Senate bill won praise from insurers, while agents expressed disappointment that it lacks the increased limits and the business interruption and living expense upgrades.
"AIA is pleased that the Senate Banking Committee approved legislation that will put the NFIP on a firm financial footing and will not include federal wind coverage as part of the NFIP reforms voted on today," said American Insurance Association President Marc Racicot. "We have steadfastly opposed the inclusion of windstorm coverage in the House version of this legislation and will continue to oppose adding wind as the House and Senate deliberate on this legislation."
Adding windstorm coverage would also encourage building in hurricane-prone regions, putting more people and property in the path of devastating storms, Racicot said.
"This is a very good bill," said Ben McKay, Property Casualty Insurers Association of America's senior vice president, federal government relations. "PCI has always supported reforming the flood program so that it can be solvent for the foreseeable future and helpful to consumers in need, but the addition of wind coverage would be extremely costly and potentially very damaging to the NFIP and its policyholders.
"We fully support the proposal to move forward with needed reforms without including needless additional exposure to a program that is already overburdened in the wake of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita."
The Independent Insurance Agents & Brokers of America (The Big "I") expressed concern over the missing upgrades.
"Both an increase in the maximum coverage limits and an inclusion of optional coverages would better allow both individuals and commercial businesses to insure against the damages that massive flooding can cause. We hope that the Senate will consider including these provisions as the legislation moves forward," said John Prible, Big "I" assistant vice president for federal government affairs.
The House Bill would increase coverage limits from $250,000 (structure) and $100,000 (contents) to $335,000 (structure) and $135,000 (contents) for any single-family dwelling and from $500,000 to $670,000 for structures and related contents of a nonresidential property.
The House version would also provide optional coverage for additional living expenses following a flood loss when the residence is unfit to live in, basement improvements, business interruption for commercial property, and full replacement cost of the contents of properties. New benefits would be made available only at time of renewal or issuance of a new contract, and only at actuarial rates, according to the bill summary.
Agents have not supported the addition of windstorm coverage.
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| Larry Hardin Adjuster Oklahoma City, OK
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 | | 10/29/2007 9:27 PM |
| Agents have not supported the addition of windstorm coverage.
This is really a recomendation FOR the coverage.
Think about it. Not that I support this but it seems that whatever the agents are FOR, do not necessarily help the insureds. | | Larry D Hardin | |
| Steve Beaumont Founding Member Adjuster Homeless Gypsy's-Fulltime RV travelers
 Posts:225

 | | 05/08/2008 10:16 AM |
| This was shot down last year, but the politicians from the gulf coast states keep trying to push it through. There has been a revival of their efforts in the last month or so, and looks like it was resoundingly shot down again. Hopefully these folks will let it die this time and concentrate their efforts on getting matters taken care of at home properly vs trying to make the rest of the country subsidize their mixed up courts/intrepretation of the coverages. Here is the article I read this morning: Senate rejects adding wind to flood insurance program Posted by SEAN REILLY May 08, 2008 6:46 AMWASHINGTON Despite pleas from some Gulf Coast lawmakers Wednesday, the U.S. Senate swamped an attempt to add optional windstorm coverage to the federally backed National Flood Insurance Program. The amendment's sponsor, U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., had touted it as a financially responsible way of dealing with the "wind versus water" insurance disputes that spawned numerous lawsuits after Hurricane Katrina. But the 74-19 turndown came one day after a congressional watchdog agency cautioned that a combined wind and flood insurance program could shift a considerable amount of risk from insurance companies and state insurance pools to the federal government. Wednesday's Senate vote came in the course of a debate over a broader overhaul of the flood insurance program. The House overwhelmingly approved optional wind coverage in its own flood insurance bill passed in the fall. The proposal's fate will hinge on how strongly House members continue to push it when they huddle with senators to hammer out differences between the two bills, said David Conrad, a flood insurance expert with the National Wildlife Federation, a Virginia-based environmental organization that believes optional wind coverage would encourage risky development. Unlike their counterparts in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi and Georgia, U.S. Sens. Jeff Sessions, R-Mobile, and Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa, both voted against Wicker's amendment. Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate banking committee, has objected that it could mean added costs for a program already staggering under some $17 billion in debt related to claims from Katrina and other 2005 storms. Sessions' office did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment on the reason for his vote. Created in 1968 because of private insurers' reluctance to cover water damage, the federal flood program now has more than 5.5 million policies in effect nationwide. Some 55,000 of those policies cover homes and businesses in Alabama, the bulk of them in Mobile and Baldwin counties. Among other provisions, the Senate bill would write off the flood program's mammoth debt to the federal treasury. It would also seek to shore up the program's finances by phasing out subsidies to businesses and second homes, raising the maximum allowable annual premium rate increase for unsubsidized properties from 10 percent to 15 percent; and requiring more at-risk homeowners to buy flood policies. But the amendment for optional wind coverage would have been much more far-reaching. The idea originated in the hybrid nature of the flood insurance program. Although the program is nominally run by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, most of the policies are written by private insurance companies that also offer wind coverage and adjust claims. By putting both wind and flood coverage under a federal umbrella, supporters say, those companies would have no incentive to attribute storm damage to flooding when the source is uncertain. "A conflict of interest exists" under the current system, U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., said Wednesday. Insurance industry trade groups deny any tilt in adjusting claims. In a review last year, the congressional watchdog agency known as the Government Accountability Office concluded that FEMA needs more authority to scrutinize claims where both wind and water are possible factors. In the separate report released Tuesday, the accountability office found that FEMA would have to complete "certain challenging steps" to make a combined wind and water insurance program work. Because premiums would be tied to the level of risk, for example, the agency would have to figure out how much to charge and still be able to cover catastrophic losses without resorting to the federal treasury. While the GAO reviewers agreed that a combined program could help resolve claims more quickly and ensure continued coverage, they also warned that it could lead the federal government and possibly taxpayers to pick up more of the insurance risk now borne by private companies and state wind pools such as the Alabama Insurance Underwriting Association, commonly known as the "beach pool." Despite the requirement that premiums be tied to risk levels, they wrote, "the potential exists for losses to greatly exceed expectations." | | | |
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