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Kenneth BurksUser is Offline

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01/09/2007 7:20 PM  

 

How many hits per sq. of a shingle would warrant replacement of the roof  ? - KB

 

 

Tom TollUser is Offline
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01/09/2007 8:01 PM  
The last hail storm we worked in Arkansas, the Company wanted 10 hits per square. I think that varies between carriers, so there is no definitive answer.

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01/09/2007 8:21 PM  
As Tom said, there is no definitive number.  Different carriers have different criteria.  You also need to take into consideration the overall condition of the roof.  Even if there is a roof with only one or two hail hits per square, but due to the age and/or condition the roof is not repairable, you still may end up replacing it.
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01/09/2007 8:29 PM  

Tom's right...there is no definite answer.  It depends on the carrier.  I've seen carrier instructions that ranged all the way from 7 hits per square to 12 hits per square to justify a total.  Their fee schedules also differed.    

 

P.S.  Was coming back in to edit, and see Dave's posted before me.  Ditto on what he said.  We'll also have to assume you're not talking about cedar shingles/shakes.  Those have different criteria discussed in an older forum as well.

Kenneth BurksUser is Offline

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01/09/2007 9:16 PM  

Thanks for your help-KB

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01/10/2007 8:47 AM  
Most adjuster's should be more concerned about marking true hail damage, and learning how to correctly measure the roof.

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Randy CoxUser is Offline

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01/10/2007 9:18 AM  

The test square has four damaged 3-tab shingles, each tab of each damaged shingle has a nickle sized dimple in the center of the tab.  If  you lick your thumb and press into the dimple, a powdery residue same color as roof sticks to your thumb.  Amazingly, all slopes have at least one test square of similar damage. Lucky for us, the worst damage is very near the best spot to place the ladder.

The gutters, turtles and roof jacks escaped damage from this storm.  How many hail hits should we circle with the chalk?  How many test squares should we do?

 

Randy Cox

 

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01/10/2007 5:36 PM  
Your description sets off warning bells, no metal damage and the actual damage is consistent not random, "ding ding ding'

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Randy CoxUser is Offline

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01/10/2007 6:31 PM  

Thank you, Peter.  Normally the asphalt would be more resilient to a hail hit than the soft metal accessories.  Mother Nature is random and not consistently uniform.  Also, the granules used on 3-tab shingles are coated with a ceramic material that is harder than even the hardest density of hail.  The colored powder on the thumb would probably be crushed ceramic material.  Whatever crushed the granules was most likely harder than ice, possibly steel...like a ball peen hammer.   Sometimes, man-made "hail hits" are very close to the ladder--even an arms length away in a non-random arc..

In my contrived example, only four shingles were damaged but each shingle had a hammer hit centered on each tab.  Even if those marks had been legitimate hail marks, the count should have been four....not 12 as I was taught to count the damaged shingles...........not just the marks.

Also, I was taught to be wary if the insured meets you too eagerly as you drive up.  Sometimes (not always) they want to define and quantify the damage,  planting the  suggestion, before you have a chance to discover it for yourself. 

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01/11/2007 12:19 PM  

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