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Ray HallUser is Offline
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03/08/2008 4:17 PM  

Was thinking about my old bud John G today when he called me when he was working in Los Angeles on the fire before the last fire. John had just purchase a new lap top and it was sitting on the right front seat when he ran into the rear of another car and the lap top flew into the firewall and broke the open screen off on the plastic-metal case.. and it cost more to replace than to repair, about $2,000.00. Being an old auto adjuster I advised him to turn  his puter claim to his Homeowners carrier as a total loss. He called in a couple of days later and said it was turned down as vehicle damage means " a vehicle must strike property". He appointed me as his appraiser under the provisions and advised our contention was "property stuck a vehicle". The carrier never appointed an appraiser and sent the check with out going to appraisal. I did not charge John and have fond memories like this one of my dear friend who passed on to a better place in December 2005.

I was an IA working a regular claim for the Farm. The catastrophe adjuster was on a storm and turned in an odd wind claim on his Homeowners in Houston. Facts. A nice spring day and Mrs. had the back door and front door letting the nice dry spring air circulate through the house. The back door blew shut and this caused the front door to slam with such force that a wrought iron and glass rack fell over and was destroyed on the stone floor. This was also a $2,000.00 loss.

OK lets keep the ball rolling gang.

Bob HarveyUser is Offline
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03/09/2008 12:54 AM  
Vehicle Loss
I handled an 18 wheeler accident north of Los Angeles with a 60 foot trailer full of "bruised tomatoes". This is one of those where they call you in the middle of the night, the driver is waiting by the side of the truck for an adjuster to show up.

Part of the assignment was to sell salvage. I found a place that would pay us 25 cents on the dollar to use the damaged tomatoes for ketchup.

Homeowners Loss
Something shorted out - sparked inside this guy's refrigerator and somehow there was an EXPLOSION. Never saw one like this before, or after. They didn't show me the forensic engineers report - my file closed way before he came up with his findings. Maybe freon can explode, I don't know - but this homeowner had a "puffed out" refrigerator, and the door flew open, and across the ceiling, living room, and dining room was mustard, ketchup, potato salad, mayo, you name it. Big streaks of food emanating from the point of origin. No arrows needed on the photos.
Ray HallUser is Offline
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03/09/2008 10:38 AM  

Vehicle Loss . 18 wheelers loaded with wheat headed to the port of Houston from the wheat states would crash or overturn in the Houston Area. The on scene adjuster would have the number of the salvor with him, who would come out with a vacum machine and another truck to put the spilled wheat and finish the haul. They would only loose about 25% of the load if the weather was dry. This was 40 years ago.

Bob HarveyUser is Offline
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03/09/2008 11:10 AM  
18 wheelers loaded with wheat... crash or overturn. the salvor... who would come out with a vacuum machine and another truck to put the spilled wheat and finish the haul. They would only loose about 25% of the load if the weather was dry. This was 40 years ago
Yeah, that was back in the day when they thought a little gravel and extra "road roughage" added to the wheat was good for your health. Kinda like the Dr who was smoking cigarettes himself 40 years ago.
Ray HallUser is Offline
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03/09/2008 2:19 PM  

Crude Oil Spills: I did liability claims for London back in the 90,s and have not liked Budweiser Beer since I learned about petroleum poison

This is when some of the range cattle in dry arid west Texas drank some salt water and oil burped up from an old well or leaking pipelines and started loosing weight. The evidence is all over the ground around the spill in the form of cow dung explosions. Of course the oil company had to pay for the lost weight of the cattle.

But the real reason was when a pipeline over the Missouri River broke and spilled several thousands that floated down stream to the Mississippi and when it got to St Louis the intake manifold to the brewery picked up the petroleum and shut the brewery down. It cost several million and it seems since that time that Bud Light does the same thing to my system as the salt water/crude oil did to those old Mexican steers out in the Perminan Basin oilfields........... hmmmm....

Steve EbnerUser is Offline
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03/12/2008 7:19 PM  
Had I known that water to make Budweiser was coming out of the Mississippi river at St. Louis, I wouldn't have needed to know there was an oil spill to stop drinking their beer. We Americans of German extraction tend to prefer a different class of beer than Budweiser anyway.

Steve Ebner

"With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962)
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03/12/2008 7:32 PM  
Vehicle Loss:

I think it may still be a violation of privacy ethics to discuss the details, but suffice it to say that I had a claim for a stolen Mercedes that involved a CPA indicted for embezzlement, the purchase of a house of bondage, and court documents with photographs of the dominatrix in various stages of undress.

Property Loss:

Straight line winds (and likely a downburst) in New York state picked up a full sized barn and laid it down forcefully on top of a second barn, which shattered outward, extensively damaging the third barn. With 10% limits on appurtent structures, the claim was a slam dunk limits claim for coverage B. The house, 50 feet away, did not have a shingle out of place.

Steve Ebner

"With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962)
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03/12/2008 9:44 PM  

18-wheeler tip over on an I-80 offramp: trailer was full of beer (bottles & cans) that spilled out onto the pavement and into the ditch when the side of the trailer split open.  Lots of broken bottles, but some not.  Lots of dented cans, some not.  Department of Health idiots ordered it all disposed of, although there were many curious and willing salvagors.  Watched it get scooped up for transport to the local landfill, but seriously doubt it all reached that destination.  That beverage brand mentioned here may have had kinder effects on Ray's digestive system. 

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03/12/2008 11:33 PM  

Here's a vehicle claim I handled years ago. 

The lienholder did not get a few monthly car payments and found out the owner was dead.  Subsequently, they discovered the car was in a fire and, thus, made a claim to the insurance company.  Through the investigation, this is what we found out. 

The owner "Jack" called his girlfriend "Jill" and told her that he had a surprise for her.  So, that evening, they went out to dinner.  After dinner, they drove to a park.  Jack told Jill to close her eyes as it was time for the surprise.  She was expected him to put a ring on her finger.  Instead, he pulled out a knife and started stabbing her. 

She fought him off and got out of the car.  He chased her down and hit her with the vehicle.  She was able to get away, run to a local house and call for help. 

Jack was found a few blocks away.... in his burned vehicle.

Ray HallUser is Offline
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03/13/2008 12:18 PM  

Insured was an elderly man driving his new pickup on a dark street at night hit a large black mule with the front of his vehicle and the mule came down crushed the cab and killed the insured.

Happened in my office. The male lover would park in front of the cement truck drivers house after he left for work. On a clear day he left the convertable top down and the husband swung by the house and swung the chute  out and put about 2 yards in the convertable. I understand the owner was alerted when the four tires exploded. The comprehensive paid a total loss on the car, and the "salvage removal" was very costly.

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