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brooks todd User is Offline

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09/10/2007 8:45 PM
Most reputable roofers stay away from Hardi repairs. I dont know if y'all have ever walked a Hardi shake, but they are extremely brittle. Say you try & replace 6 tiles. What do you do when the surrounding tiles are damaged by the repair? The paticular Hardi shake roof, that I was involved in, has been completed and paid for. I see now, why the relation of adjusters & homeowners is an adveserial relation. Some of you are more worried about what not to pay for, than the well being of your policy holders.

John Davis User is Offline

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09/11/2007 10:40 AM
Brooks Todd, the adverserial relationship is between adjusters and roofers that are interested in their commision only. A reputable roofer would have tried to find out if material was around to repair the Hardi roof. The roofer interested in a large commision would have recommended replacement before finding out if there were Hardi shingles around for the repair. I have adjusted roofs in Tarrant county where there was small damage to a Hardi roof that the policyholder's roofer recommended replacement. The roof had been put on by Huffaker Roofing and Huffaker repaired it with Hardi shingles. You have given the name of your company and if I get an estimate from you that does not agree with my estimate I will call a reputable roofer for an estimate.

brooks todd User is Offline

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09/11/2007 2:40 PM
Davis: just so you know, even though it is none of your business, our " unreputable company" was called in after the roof was already bought. only a few companies can handle these extreme roofs, and we are probably the best. what would you replace this roof with, do you even know the products that are comparible ? sorry you didnt get this 1 on your fee schedule.

brooks todd User is Offline

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09/11/2007 9:37 PM
I cannot let this go. It is not the job of a roofing contractor, to search out solutions, in the middle of severe weather. Our job is to prevent water from entering these homes while torrential rains are falling. I will enjoy meeting you & your reputable roofer, in the field. We can compare notes & credentials then. No need to compare knowledge of roofing though. If your roofer is big time in the Metroplex, we will discuss this well before you get any answers. Also why would an adjuster be calling for roofing estimates? Arent you people the end all experts ?

Larry Hardin User is Offline

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09/11/2007 11:27 PM
All, The Hardi Shake shingles have been in a recall for years. They are also involved in a class action suit that has had judgement rendered. I worked a claim in Richardson, TX with 181 squares of hardi shake. The roof was a total loss from hail. USAA recovered 100% through the class action suit. Yes, boys and girls. My fee bill was paid. Yes, boys and girls, I rang the bell for the largest roof claim on the storm. Hardi Shake shingles were a failure before they were installed. Do not confuse these with Hardi Plank, which is an excellent product, when installed correctly.

Larry D Hardin

brooks todd User is Offline

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09/12/2007 8:22 AM
I never thought of the carrier subrogating Hardi Corp. Also very good point to seperate the Hardi products Nice job on that claim.

Mike Kunze User is Offline

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09/12/2007 12:33 PM
Can't say that I've ever seen a HardiShake roof. Sounds very similar to the Masonite Woodruf product that I saw plenty of in certain developments built by the same large builder. Made for a mess of things after a relatively minor hail storm in Omaha a few years ago. Wondering if this the same shake just made by different mfr?

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