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Bobabooey AdjusterUser is Offline

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02/19/2008 6:26 PM  

I found a way for you to save millions of dollars a year.  This grand idea will also save a lot of grief for your insd's and will ultimately lead to more profits.  My grand idea??   Fire all of your file reviewers.   Let your IA's do their job. 

Ray HallUser is Offline
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02/19/2008 6:47 PM  

My  complaining about having your work reviewed by another person with more experience and more knowledge, plus 4 eyes are always better than 2 and someone agreeing with you must indicate you got it right the first time. ALL adjusters have their work reviewed.

Steve BeaumontUser is Offline
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02/19/2008 11:42 PM  
I agree with Ray, and believe that all files need to be reviewed by company examiners. I've reviewed thousands of IA files and some require a close examination where as some you pretty much know the handler and rarely see any problems with them. There are some IA vendors that do an excellent job of screening the files before they leave their office and some not so good. Same goes for individual IA's doing day work. The larger the event, the more problems will slip thru the cracks and make it to the carrier. In an ideal world, what Boba says above would be great, and a lot of the IA's would do an excellent job. Problem is we don't live in an ideal world and there are still a fair amount of them that need to have their work reviewed.
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02/20/2008 2:33 AM  

Nah file reviewers are great.. its the ones that have -0 personality that need to go..

why would you not want a file reviewer?  its like being able to turn in a test.. missing a question, then they give it back saying "psst.. fix this before i grade it"

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02/20/2008 8:38 AM  

As much as we try to have the perfect file, mistakes can still be made. It is essential that files be reviewed by a qualified reviewer. Therein lies the problem, QUALIFIED file reviewer and not one trying to impress the higher authority of their knowledge and prowess. We are all in this together and should present ourselves as doer's and professionals.


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Jim GaryUser is Offline
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02/20/2008 8:39 AM  
This just in, sometime in the future from the FNN news wire....Dateline 2025.....

...Insurance rates skyrocket, after failed savings plan goes awry. An insurance company spokesman today said the plan on its face looked good, minimizing staff to cut costs. The plan originated on a discussion board, suggested by an adjuster with the screen name of "Bobabooey Adjuster", a name believed to be taken from the Howard Stern radio show. The plan consisted of cutting costs by firing all file reviewers and letting the adjusters estimate the damage and authorize payments. Problems started surfacing when the companies realized that many of the adjusters were actually working with contractors to inflate estimates. "The plan was a total failure" stated the spokesman,"Though most adjusters gave honest appraisals of damage, there were some who just handed out money like it was candy". Bobabooey was unavailable for comment, it is believed he is attempting to remove the tar and feathers bestowed upon him by the insurance companies.
In an unrelated story, President Chelsea Clinton rejects a plan to save tax dollars by firing all the military and just paying for damage caused by terrorists attacks with the savings. .....



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Larry ReganUser is Offline

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02/20/2008 10:11 AM  

 

why would you not want a file reviewer?  its like being able to turn in a test.. missing a question, then they give it back saying "psst.. fix this before i grade it"

Deja vu-

That is exactly what they did on the test for the Texas state insurance adjusters license!!!!!! I guess it had somrthing to do with the gaurantee to pass or your money back.

Larry ReganUser is Offline

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02/20/2008 10:18 AM  

Jim,

You need to see about getting all the short stories you have laying around that you have written in your down time published. Are you this eloquent in your narratives on your claims.

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02/28/2008 11:25 AM  

One of the hats I wear now that I am on staff is that of file reviewer. For obvious reasons I would not like to be fired. (That's called disclosure of your conflict of interests, a concept those in Washington would do well to learn.)

Some of the reports I review are amazing, and some are just amazingly incompetent. Sometimes you offer the carrot (like hiring the competent adjusters when you have another assignment available) and sometimes you offer the stick (like pulling the file and refusing to ever use that adjuster again). My philosophy as an independent was, and as a staff guy is, that we are in the claim process together. If we are adversaries, the main goal is not being accomplished. And the main goal, need I remind anyone, is to indemnify the insured in as prompt and fair a manner as possible. It's really not about the examiner or the adjuster. It's about the insured. In the most basic of terms, we simply happen to pick up a paycheck in the process of providing a service to the policyholders by attempting to pay the right amount -- or as George Meherle would have said, "not a penny more or a penny less".

Overpaying claims creates higher premiums.  Underpaying claims is at best due to lack of knowledge and at worst due to lack of ethical standards.  I rely on independents to supply me with all the information I need to make a reasonable decision about what is the right amount to pay.


Steve Ebner

"With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962)
Tom TollUser is Offline
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02/28/2008 5:38 PM  

Steve, thanks for your comment about the insured (policy holders). Insureds seem to get lost in some cases and of course, that is who we are serving and should be receiving priority, not the vendors or carriers. The insured has a contract of adhesion for multiple perils and should get a reasonable settlement, within a reasonable period of time.  I understand the carriers have a vested interest in loss claims, but they provide, by contract, a method of indemnification if the policyholder has a covered cause of loss.

Whoever hired you has gotten a good man, ethcal, decent, and knowedgeable. Keep up the good work. Don't concern yourself with eliminating adjusters that know not what they do.  All they do is damage our profession.


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